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; 10/17/16 5:46 AM ; ;;;;BCC161017 . >> FOR THE RECORD I'M THE DISTRICT 7 BOSTON CITY COUNCILOR. CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION.
I'M JOINED BY THE SPONSORED AND GOOD FRIENDS, COLLEAGUES CITY COUNCILOR GEORGE AND O'MALLEY.
I WANT TO REMAINED YOU THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING BEING RECORDD AND BROADCAST ON COMCAST CHANNEL 8 AND RCM CHANNEL 82.
PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELLPHONES AND OTHER DEVICES.
WE WILL TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND APPRECIATE YOU SIGNING IN, IN THE BACK AND CHECK OFF THE BOX IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY, IF THOSE THE CASE. STATE YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION. LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO A FEW MINUTES SO ALL CAN BE HEARD. TODAY'S HEARING -- I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE MY GOOD COLLEAGUE TO MY LEFT WAS BLOCKED. WE ALSO HAVE CITY COUNCILOR MARTINA AND McCARTHY WHO ARE IN THE CHAMBER.
TODAY'S HEARING IS ON 0745. ORDER FOR HEARING REGARDING LATER HIGH SCHOOL START TIMES IN BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY A BOSTON CITY COUNCILOR GEORGE AND O'MALLEY AND REFERRED TO THE IS COMMITTEE ON MAY 18th, 2016. WE WERE WILL HAVE A PAIGION.
I WILL GIVE THE SPONSORS A OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE OPENING STATEMENTS THEN WE WILL GET TO THE PANEL.
COUNCILLOR GEORGE. >> THANK YOU, CHAIR. A SPECIAL THANKS TO COUNCILLOR O'MALLEY FOR JOINING ME IN THE EFFORT.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE PANELISTS WITH US TODAY.
OUR SPECIALISTS, OUR BPS AD MY STATION AND STUDENTS JOINING US. MY HEARING GOALS FOR TODAY ARE TWO-FOLD.
ONE IS TO HAVE A SPECIAL AND SHARED UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEEDS OF OUR TEENAGERS ESPECIALLY THEIR SLEEP NEEDS AND HOW IT AFFECTS THEIR LEARNING.
I WANT TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTAND OF THE SHIFT OF HIGH SCHOOL START TIMES.
WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO SCHOOL OPERATIONS AND OUR ABILITY TO GET KIDS TOO AND FROM SCHOOL. TOO AND FROM ACTIVITIES WHETHER IT'S SPORTS, CLUB OR WORK.
I WANT TO PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THOSE SCHOOLS STARTING BEFORE 7:30 A.M. WE HAVE MORE THAN HALF OF OUR SCHOOLS STARTING AT 7:30. OUR HIGH SCHOOLS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE STUDENTS AND WHAT AN ADDITIONAL 20, 30, 40 MINUTES WOULD DO FOR THEIR DAY.
AS MOST OF YOU KNOW I WAS A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER PRIOR TO BEING ELECTED TO THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL.
ONE OF THE MOST IMPACT FULL THINGS FOR OUR STUDENTS AND THE STUDENTS I TAUGHT WAS A GOOD NIGHT'S REST AND HOW IT INFLUENCES THEIR EDUCATION AND BEING PREPARED, AWAKE AND READY TO LEARN.
I LOOK FORWARD TO, TODAY'S HEARING.
THE INFORMATION SHARED, THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS FROM COLLEGE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A SOON AND QUICK WORKING SESSION THAT WE CAN TAKE WHAT WE LEARN TODAY AND APPLY IT IN A MEANINGFUL WAY AS WHAT WE DO AS A SCHOOL DISTRICT AND CITY. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM EVERYONE TODAY.
>> THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR GEORGE. COUNCILLOR O'MALLEY.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I'M DELIGHTED TO PARTNER WITH MY DEAR FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE COUNCILLOR GEORGE. IT'S A IMPORTANT MEASURE LOOKING TO MOVE LATER START TIMES FOR HIGH SCHOOLS. MANY BOSTON HIGH SCHOOLS BEGIN BETWEEN 7 TO AND 9:30 HALF START BEFORE 7:30. MANY START BEFORE 8:30 A.M. NOW OUR HIGH SCHOOLS ARE CITY WIDE. THIS MEANS THE STUDENTS CAN GO TO A SCHOOL NEAR HOME OR ACROSS THE CITY. B PS 1-12 RELY ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO SCHOOL. COULD YOU HAVE A STUDENT IN COUNCILLOR LAMATTINA'S DISTRICT EAST WORST ON AND HAVE TO TRAVEL A VERY LONG DISTANCE TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CITY. EVEN CLOSER TO HOME IT CAN BE A ISSUE. MY NEPHEW BEGAN SEVENTH GRADE AT OWE BRYANT SCHOOL IN ROXBURY. TWO NEIGHBORHOODS OVER YET HE HAS TO LEAVE HIS HOME BY 6:00 A.M. THERE IS NO DIRECT ROUTE THERE. HE HAS TO TAKE A BUS AND ORANGE LINE OR COMMUTER RAIL AND WALK. FOR MANY STUDENTS INCLUDING MY NEPHEW AND MANY OTHERS THIS MEANS WAKING UP WELL BEFORE DAWN AND TRAVELING BY MTBA BUS AND TRAIN, SOMETIMES IN THE DARK TO, GET TO CRASS BY THE FIRST WELL. THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS RECOMMEND A STUDENT RECEIVE 9 HOURS OF SLEEP AT NIGHT. THIS MEANS A STUDENT MUST GO TO BED AT 8:30 CAN YOU THINK OF A TEENAGER ABLE OR WILLING TO GO TO BED AT 8:30 P.M. WE WILL HEAR FROM EXPERTS TODAY. THEY WILL TALK ABOUT THE UNWILLINGNESS FOR A TEEN TO CALL IT A DAY EARLY MAYBE PART OF THEIR BIOLOGY OVER TEMPERAMENT. LACK OF SLEEP CAN CAUSE LOW GRADES, ANXIETY, OBESITY AND OTHER SEVERE HEALTH ISSUES. WE KNOW THERE IS A LOT TO CONSIDER. TRANSPORTATION, AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND YOUTH EMPLOYMENT. I THINK IT'S A IMPORTANT FIRST STEP. I ECHO THE CALLS OF COUNCILLOR GEORGE TO EXPEDITE A WORKING SESSION AFTER THIS AND WE SHOULD EXPLORE THIS FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BRIEF OPENING STATEMENT, MR. CHAIR. LOOKING FORWARD TO A WORTHWHILE HEARING. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR O'MALLEY. COUNCILLOR LAMATTINA. >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. I WILL BE BRIEF AND TO THE POINT. THANK THE COUNCILLORS FOR BRINGING UP THIS ISSUE. COUNCILLOR O'MALLEY SAID IT EARLIER WHEN MY DAUGHTER WENT TO BOSTON LANG. WE HAD TO MAKE SURE SHE WAS AT MAVERICK STATION AT 6:00 A.M. TO GET TO SCHOOL ON TIME. I NEVER UNDERSTOOD IT. WHY HIGH SCHOOL STARTED SO EARLY. SHE WAS UP LATE DOING HOMEWORK. I'M JUST HERE TO LISTEN. I DO HAVE CONCERNS ON THE IMPACT OF SPORTS AND CLUBS AFTER SCHOOL. I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, AND I JUST HOPE WE CAN DO THIS SOON. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SO MUCH, COUNCILLOR LA MA TINA. COUNCILLOR McCARTHY. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU TO THE PAPBLSZ. I HAVE TWO TEENAGE BOYS MYSELF. ONE IN COLLEGE, ONE A JUNIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL. GOING TO BED WAS ALWAYS A BATTLE AND GETTING UP IS A BATTLE. THAT'S JUST ME. THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE. YOU KNOW HEALTH IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS DISCUSSION. A LOT OF THIS COMES DOWN TO PARENTAL GUIDANCE. YOU KNOW NOT HAVING ELECTRONICS IN THE ROOMS. PHONES AND TVs IN THE ROOM. ME AND MY WIFE WERE THE BAD GUYS GROWING UP. MY BOYES WERE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ELECTRONICS IN THE ROOMS. YOU KNOW PS4 IS IN THE BASEMENT, ALL OF THAT STUFF. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. I'M GLAD WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THIS. AS COUNCILLOR LAMATTINA ELOQUENTLY STATED AS A DAD AND CITY WE PUSH KIDS TO DO EXTRA CIRCULAR ACTIVITIES. SPORTS OR MUSIC, ART, SCIENCE, GENERALLY AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMMING. I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE NOT AS EASY AS IT SOUNDS TO MOVE A SCHOOL DAY BACK. I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THE DISCUSSION. CERTAINLY BECAUSE I HAVE BOYS. SERBLY BECAUSE IT COULD BE VERY POSITIVE IMPACT FOR THE KIDS IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, SO MUCH. COUNCILLOR PRESSLEY, OPENING REMARKS? YES, RIGHT ON TIME. >> I'M SURE I WILL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. CERTAINLY WE KNOW THAT HEALTHY STUDENTS ARE BETTER LEARNERS. DUE TO EXTRA CIRCULAR ACTIVITIES AND MANY IT DEMANDS ON WORKING FAMILIES VERY OFTEN OUR YOUNG PEOPLE COME TO SCHOOL SLEEP DEPRIVED. I SEE THE BENEFITS SUPPORTING THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF OUR YOUTH TO BE RECEPTIVE TO WHAT IS BEING TAUGHT TO THEM. I LOOK FORWARD TO LEARNING MORE PROCEDURALLY WHAT IT WOULD REQUIRE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND THE SHIFTING CULTURALLY. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR. >> I'M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW IT RELATES TO AFTER SCHOOL AND EXTRA CIRCULARS. PARTICULARLY SPORTS. IF BOSTON DOES THIS IT ISN'T TO SAY OTHERS WILL FOLLOW SUIT. SPORTING EVENTS HAPPENING RIGHT AFTER SCHOOL. PLAYING LEXINGTON OR WELLESLEY. THEY WON'T CONFORM TO OUR SCHEDULE. WILL THEY STOP INVITING US TO PARTICIPATE. HOW DOES THAT WORK ACADEMIC LY I WENT TO VC HIGH. IT WAS EARLY TO BED, EARLY TO RISE MAKES YOU HAPPY, HEALTHY AND WISE. THERE ARE TREPBTSDZ ACROSS THE CITY AND THE COUNTRY. AT THE END OF THE DAY IT HAS IMPLICATIONS. IT LOOKS THAT THE EXTRA CIRCULAR ACTIVITIES AND THE SPORTING, SCHOOL SPORTING EVENTS WOULD TAKE A BACK SEAT, I THINK, TO SCHOOLING HOUR CHANGES. I WOULD LIKE TO GET A SENSE FROM FOLKS IN THE ROOM AS TO CHANGING THE SCHOOL HOURS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR BASEBALL GAMES, FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL AND HOCKEY GAMES, EC CETERA, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO COMPETE AT THAT LEVEL OR WOULD WE HAVE TO FOR GO AFTER SCHOOL SPORTS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILLOR FLAHERTY. >> I TOO WAOUPT TO APPLAUD THE SPONSORS OF THIS I THINK IT'S TIME TO MOVE FORWARD ON CHANGING SCHOOL START TIMES TO 1:30 OR PAST. THAT IN BOSTON WE HAVE CITY WIDE SCHOOLS. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING ALL CITIES OR TOUPBDZ HAVE. WE'RE NOT THIS LARGE OF A CITY. IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO GET ACROSS THE CITY. SO, I THINK THIS COULD BE A TRANSPORTATION'SING METHOD. NOT HAVING STUDENTS TRAVELING AT THE PEAK HOURS OF TRANSPORTATION. IN ADDITION WE LIVE IN A CITY WHERE WEATHER IS A ISSUE. I THINK HAVING ADDITIONAL TIME IN THAT SPACE. I HAVE SPOKEN TO MANY STUDENTS WHOSE SCHEDULE RIVAL MINE AS A CITY COUNCILOR WITH EXTRA CIRCULAR ACTIVITIES THEY HAVE. OFTEN TIMES THEY BRING THEM THROUGH LATER HOURS IN THE NIGHT. I THINK IT'S CRITICAL TO THINK ABOUT THAT. I GOT A CALL FROM OWN THIS. THEY START, THEY CHANGED THEIR START TIME TO 1:30. THEY HAVE SEEN PROMISING THINGS HAPPEN. ATTENDANCE AND TARDINESS HAS GONE DOWN. THERE ARE SEVERAL TWEAKS AROUND THE TRANSPORTATION THAT HAVE TO BE, AFTER V. TO BE LOOKED AT. THEY REMAINED ME THE SLOGAN OF MAIN IS THE WAY LIFE SHOULD BE. THAT WAS -- THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID IN THE CALL. LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR THE EXPERT TESTIMONY AND ENCOURAGED BY COUNCILLOR GEORGE WHO HAS MUCH KNOWLEDGE IN THIS SPACE AND COUNCILLOR O'MALLEY WHO HAS BEEN A PROPONENT OF PUBLIC EDUCATION. WE WILL HAVE OUR FIRST PANEL. DR. JUDITH OWENS, DR. CHARLES SEZLER, MARY MAMEKER. I WILL HAVE YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND I GIVE YOUR BACK GROUND AND LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR TESTIMONY. >> WHO EVER WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST. >> SO, MY NAME IS DR. JUDY OWENS. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF SWEET MEDICINES AT BOSTON CHILDREN HOSPITAL AND LEAD AUTHOR OF THE AMERICAN PEDIATRIC -- ON SCHOOL START TIMES THIS. IS A ISSUE NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. I SEE THE REPERCUSSIONS DAILY CLINICALLY OF TEENS THAT DON'T GET ENOUGH SLEEP AND HAVE A WHOLE POST OF HEALTH PROBLEMS ACADEMIC CHALLENGES, SAFETY ISSUES, RISK TAKING BEHAVIOR AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THIS. SO, I'M VERY PASSIONATE AND EXTREMELY HAPPY THAT BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS CONTEMPLATING MAKING THIS CHANGE. THE BEST INTEREST FOR THE HEALTH OF THEIR STUDENTS. >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. >> I'M DR. CHARLES ZIZELER. -- SLEEP MEDICINE AND THE DIRECTOR OF SLEEP MEDICINE AT THE HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL. LIKE DR. OWENS I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS ISSUE. I THINK IT'S GREAT THE BOSTON CITY COUNCIL IS CONTEMPLATING MAKING A CHANGE FOR THE BETTER IN THIS DIRECTION. I THINK IT DOES HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF THE AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES. THIS HAS BEEN MANAGED IN OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN MINNEAPOLIS SUCCESSFULLY. I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, MY SON WHO IS A CAPTAIN OF THREE DIFFERENT SPORTS BEFORE HE GRAD YOU AOUATED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO -- MOVING THIS ISSUE FORWARD. IT IS, SOMEONE HAS TO TAKE A LEADERSHIP POSITION. I THINK MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS, NEWTON AND OTHER PLACES ARE CONTEMPLATING CHANGES IN THIS DIRECTION. I THINK IF BOSTON WAS TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION IT WOULD HELP SET THE STATE WIDE NORM WHICH WOULD FACILITATE CHANGING THE TIMING OF THE SPORTING ACTIVITIES WAS OF THE HUGE IMPACT BOSTON HAS ON DIFFERENT SCHOOLS. >> MY NAME IS MARY HAMKER. I'M THE CHAIR OF MASSACHUSETS START SCHOOL LATER. A CHARITY ADVOCATING FOR HEALTHY START TIMES FOR ADOLESCENCE. I FORMED THE MASSACHUSETS CHAPTER IN MARCH 2014. MY DAUGHTER WAS A JUNIOR IN NORTH BOROUGH, MASSACHUSETS, AND SUFFERING FROM DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY. WATCHING HER NOT GET ENOUGH SLEEP AND HER SYMPTOMS GET WORST AND WORST. I SAW HER ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE GO DOWN. FOR A CHILD WHO HAD BEEN TESTED SIX WAYS FROM SUNDAY FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS INCLUDING INTELLIGENCE AND TESTED AS GIFTED. TO SEE HER GET THE GRADES SHE WAS GETTING BECAUSE SHE WAS SO ILL AND SLEEP DEPROEUFBED WAS TO SAY THE LEAST DISHEARTENING AS A PARENT. I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THIS IN MASSACHUSETS AND HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO MEET WITH DR. OWENS AND DR. SIZLER. WE NOW HAVE FOUR TAOEB TOWN BASED KHAPLTS OF START SCHOOL LATER. INCLUDING THE BOSTON CHAPTER. WILL YOU HEAR FROM THE HEAD OF THE BOSTON CHAPTER HOPEFULLY LATER TO DAY. THERE ARE NOW 79 CHAPTERS NATION WIDE OF START SCHOOL LATER ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THIS IS A ISSUE WHOSE TIME HAS COME. THERE ARE LEGITIMATE LOGISTICS TO TALK ABOUT. THERE ARE NO UNSURMOUNTABLE MOUNTAINS. WE CAN DO THIS. >> THANK YOU. BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD I WANT THE PANEL ADDRESS. I HEARD YOU SPEAK ABOUT SAFETY, RISK TAKING ISSUES, AND THE POSITION FROM A PHYSICAL MENTAL HEALTH AND SAFETY WELL BEING ASPECT. CAN YOU GIVE US AN INSIGHT ON WHAT THE ACTUAL REPORT SAYS FROM THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS. >> THAT'S EVEN BETTER. >> PERHAPS WOULD YOU LIKE TO START WITH THE PRESENTATION. >> DR. SIZLER WILL PRESENT FIRST. >> I WANT TO PUT THIS IN PERFECT PERSPECTIVE. WE THINK OF THIS AS AN ISSUE WHOSE TIME HAS COME. ACTUALLY WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR A CENTURY HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. PROFESSOR LEWIS -- CHAIRMAN OF THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT AT STANFORD MORE THAN 20 YEARS, WHO DEVELOPED IQ TESTING IN THE UNITED STATES. HE RECOGNIZED FROM HIS STUDIES OF SLEEP TIMES IN CHILDREN IN THE UNITED STATES, COMPARING THEM WITH OTHER PLACES IN THE WORLD. HE FOUND THAT KIDS HERE WERE SLEEPING ONE TO TWO HOURS MORE A NIGHT THEN THEY WERE IN EUROPE. THAT LEAD HIM TO CONCLUDE A CENTURY AGO IN 1913 THE EUROPEAN CUSTOM OF BEGINNING SCHOOL AT 7:00 A.M. TO 8:00 A.M. IS A GREAT HEARD SHIP. THE AMERICAN PRACTICE OF 9:00 A.M. IS FAR WISER AND NEVER CHANGED. WHAT HAS HAPPENED OVER THE ENSUING CENTURY, AS WITHOUT ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE DATA OR MAKING A DECISION WE HAVE SLOWLY TEN MINUTES AT A TIME INCREMENTALLY MOVED OUR TIMES EARLIER AND THE EUROPEAN'S HAVE MOVED THEIR START TIMES LATER. IN EUROPE ONE OF THE -- A HEADMASTER IN BRITAIN SAID MOVING THE START TIMES LATER HAD A BIGGER IMPACT THAN ANY OTHER EDUCATIONAL INITIATIVE THEN HE WAS INVOLVED IN THE PREVIOUS 30 YEARS IN TERMS OF A LEVEL TESTING PERFORMANCE. WE HAVE FALL EBB BEHIND. IN THAT MATTER, IT'S SOMETHING WE WERE AHEAD OF A CENTURY AGO. IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS IMPORTANT WE HAVE TO STEP BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE FUNCTION OF SLOPE. SO SLEEP HAS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS. ONE OF WHICH IS TO CLEAR METABOLIC DEBRIS FROM THE BRAIN AS WE'RE AWAKE. THE BRAIN USES MORE ENERGY THEN ANY OTHER ORGAN. IT'S 2% OF THE BODY BY WEIGHT BUT USES 20 TO 25% OF GLUCOSE AND OXYGEN WE CONSUME EACH DAY. THAT'S A FUEL BURNING AREA BECAUSE OF THE FIRING OF THE NEURONS USING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS DURING SLEEP IS WE REPLENISH THAT ENERGY. IF WE DON'T THEN THOSE AREAS OF THE BRAIN ARE SLUGGISH AND DON'T WORK WELL. ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENS DURING SLEEP IS WE CLEAR AWAY THE METABOLIC DEBRIS. WHEN YOU HAVE A FURNACE BUILDING YOU HAVE SLUDGE BUILDUP. THAT HAPPENS IN THE BRAIN. WE BUILDUP A PROTEIN CALLED AMALOBETA. THAT CAN FORM PLAX AND THAT'S THE BASIS OF ALZHEIMERS DISEASE. THAT'S WHY PEOPLE WHO HAVE SLEEP ORDER DISORDERS GET COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENT AND ALZHEIMER DISEASE A DECADE EARLIER. THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENS DURING SLEEP BESIDES CLEARING THE METABOLIC DEBRIS IS WE CONSOLIDATE MEMORY AND LEARNING DURING SLEEP. DURING THE FIRST PART OF SLEEP THAT'S WHEN WE PUT INTO A FILE CABINET ALL THAT WE HAVE LEARNED THAT DAY. THAT'S WHEN WE CONSOLIDATE SHORT-TERM MEMORY TO LONG TERM MEMORY. THEN THE SECOND PART OF THE NIGHT. PARTICULARLY THE LAST TWO HOURS OF THE NIGHT. RAPID EYE MOVEMENT SLOPE AND VIVID DREAMING, THAT'S WHEN WE INTEGRATE THE NEW THINGS WE LEARNED THE PREVIOUS NIGHT WITH THE PREVIOUS INFORMATION WE HAD KNOWN. THAT'S WHERE INFERENCE CREATIVITY PROBLEM SOLVING TAKES PLACE DURING THE RAPID EYE MOVEMENT SLEEP. IF WE CUT OFF THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS OF SLEEP BY SHORT CHANGING OURSELVES AND NOT REALIZING THAT SLEEP IS DEPOTSED OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THEN WE ACTUALLY CUT OFF OUR ABILITY TO BRING TOGETHER THE MEMORIES WITH WHAT WE KNOW AND THE ABILITY TO DWAYNE INSIGHT OF WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THE PREVIOUS DAY. THAT'S WHY HAVING SCHOOL CHILDREN GET ENOUGH SLEEP IS SO CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. AFTER ALL THEY ARE THERE TO LEARN. BY HAVING THEM CHRONICALLY SLEEP DEPRIVED WE IMPAIR THEIRABLE TO DO SO. IT'S ALMOST RECOGNIZED SLEEP IS IMPORTANT TO THE BODY. AS ELUDED TOO BY COUNCILLOR O'MALLEY IF CHILDREN DON'T GET ENOUGH SLEEP THEY GAIN WEIGHT. BECAUSE IT CHANGES METABOLISMS. WE ARE INSULIN RESISTENT. THE KIDS ARE AT GREATER RISK OF DIABETES. THEY CAN'T METABOLIZE EFFICIENTLY THE ENERGY THEY TAKE. IN IT INCREASES BLOOD PRESSURE AND CARDIO SAS CUE HRAR RISK AND DEGRADES THE IMMUNE SYSTEM. IF YOU GET FOUR OR FIVE HOURS ONLY A NIGHT OF SLEEP THEN YOU HAVE HALF OF THE ANTIBODY RESPONSE TO A FLU SHOW THE YOU GET THIS FALL, THEN IF YOU GET A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF SLEEP. ALSO ONE THING THAT GETS THE ATHLETES ATTENTION IS WHEN I POINT OUT TO THEM IF YOU GET FOUR HOURS A SLOPE A NIGHT FOR A WEEK YOUR TESTOSTERONE LEVELS DECREASE TO ELEVEN YEARS OF AGING. IT IMPAIRS OUR ABILITY TO PRODUCE GROWTH HORMONE, TESTOSTERONE AND OTHER CRITICAL HORMONES THAT ARE CRITICAL FOR THE TRANSITION OF ADOLESCENCE TO ADULTS. FINALLY SLEEP IS CRITICAL FOR OUR ABILITY TO MAINTAIN FOLK US AND ATTENTION. WHEN WE DON'T GET ENOUGH SLEEP ADOLESCENCE ARE AT PARTICULARLY INCREASED RISK OF BEING MISS DIAGNOSED WITH ADHD. THE SYMPTOMS OF SLEEP DEFICIENCY MIMIC ADHD. THE FOCUS AND INCREASEDY PHO +*EGSS, PEOPLE ARE MORE VOLATILE AND MORE LIKELY TO BE SENT TO THE SCHOOL NURSE. THAT LEADS EVENTUALLY TO A PRESCRIPTION FOR A TYPE OF AMPHETAMINE USED IN THE TREATMENT -- THEY'RE ALL WHAT WE GIVE OUR KIDS INSTEAD OF ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF SLEEP. AS WAS MENTIONED BY COUNCILLOR OWE MALLY, THESE ADOLESCENCE NEED AT LEAST NINE TO TEN OURS OF SLEEP PER NIGHT. IF YOU JUST DO THE ARITHMETIC, YOU CAN'T GET UP AT 5:00 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AND BE ABLE TO GO TO SLEEP AT AN ADEQUATE TIME. SO, THEN THE QUESTION IS, FIRST OF ALL, HOW DO YOU ACHIEVE GOOD SLEEP HEALTH IN THE ADOLESCENCE IN THE BOSTON CITY HIGH SCHOOLS. THE FIRST CRITICAL THING IS TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF ELEVEN HOUR INTERVAL BETWEEN THE LAST SCHEDULED ACTIVITY AND THE START OF SCHOOL. SO, IF YOU HAVE THE SCHOOL, KIDS STARTING AT 7:00 A.M. THEN YOU SHOULDN'T ALLOW ANY SCHEDULED SCHOOL SPONSORED ACTIVITIES TO GO AFTER 8:00 P.M. AT NIGHT. THAT RESULTS IN A HUGE HIT ON PLAYS, EVENING GATHERINGS, A SEPL PWHRAOEZ AND OTHER SCHOOL SANCTIONED ACTIVITIES. BASKETBALL GAMES, ETCETERA, THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISH A CONSISTENT INTERVAL WHERE THE KIDS CAN CONSISTENTLY SLEEP BECAUSE THE ABILITY TO SLEEP IS DEPENDENT NOT ON ADEQUATE TIME TO DO SO BUT THE OTHER THING THAT REGULATES THE ABILITY TO SLEEP SO ONE IS SLEEP PRESSURE. HOW MUCH SLEEP HAVE YOU GOTTEN. THE OTHER IS AN INTERNAL BUY LONG CAL CLOCK IN THE BRAIN. CONTROLLING THE TIMING OF OUR ABILITY TO SLEEP. PARADOXICALLY THIS SENDS OUT A STRONGEST DRIVE FOR WAKING JUST BEFORE WHAT WOULD BE DUSK IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD OR WOULD BE THE TIME WE ORDINARILY GO TO BED. WHY IS THAT? WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHY IT'S SET UP THIS WAY. THE SPECULATION IS THAT, THIS IS TRUE OF ALMOST ALL DAY ACTIVE SPECIES. THEY GET A TREMENDOUS SURGE OF ENERGY AND ACTIVITY BEFORE DUST IN THEIR LOCAL TIME ZONE. PRESUMABLY TO GET THEIR NEST OR SAFE PLACE OR WHATEVER -- GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER BEFORE THE SUP GOES DOWN AND THEY CAN'T SEE ANYTHING AND THEY CAN'T THERE, IF YOU HAVE GONE CAMPING, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A TENT SET UP BEFORE DARK IT'S DIFFICULT. YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE A NAP AND WAKE UP AND IT'S DARK. THE INTERNAL CLOCK IS SET UP TO SEND OUT A STRONG DRIVE FOR WAKEFULNESS JUST BEFORE OUR USUAL SLEEP TIME. THE CONS KWEBS IS IT'S HARD FOR KIDS TO GO TO BED EARLIER THAN A USUAL BED TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS WITH ADOLESCENCE. THIS IS WELL DOCUMENTED. WITH THE ON SET OF TUBE ERTY THEIR INTERNAL CLOCK MOVES TO A LATER HOUR THEN AT 8 OR 10 YEARS OLD. THAT MOVEMENT OF THE INTERNAL CLOCK MEANS THIS WAKE MAINTENANCE ZONE, THIS SURGE OF ENERGY IS LATER IN THE EVENING, MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR THE KIDS TO GO TO BED WHEN COUNCILLOR O'MALLEY, NOT JUST PICKING ON YOU, BUT WHEN YOU STATED GOING TO BED AT 8:00 O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING, THEY SIMPLY CAN'T. THEY CAN'T FALL A SLEEP AT THAT TIME EVEN IF THEY WERE MOTIVATED TO TRY TO GO TO BED AT THAT TIME TO GET ADEQUATE SLEEP. THE INTERNAL CLOCK IS SENDING OUT A SURGE OF ENERGY AND ACTIVITY THAT ASK PRECLUDING THEIR ABILITY TO GO TO BED AT THAT TIME. THE YOUNGER KIDS, 6 OR 7, 8 THEY GO TO BED AT THAT TIME. AFTER PUBERTY THEY CAN'T. WE HAVE THE SYSTEM FLIPPED. MANY TIMES THE YOUNGER KIDS ARE SENT TO SCHOOL LATER AND THE OLDER KIDS HAVE EARLIER START TIMES. IT SHOULD BE QUITE THE REVERSE. WHEN WE DON'T GIVE THE KIDS ADEQUATE TIME FOR SLEEP THAT INCREASES NOT ONLY TARDINESS AND ABSENCES BUT INCREASES RISK OF MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES. ONE OUT OF FIVE CRASHES AND DEATHS ARE RELATED TO SLEEP DEFICIENCY. THAT IMPAIRS ABILITY TO LEARN, INCREASE RISK OF DID I PRESSES AND SUICIDAL IDEALATION, INCREASE RISK TAKING, INCREASE DIABETES AND OBESITY, AND. FOR ALL OF THE REASONS THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE A CHANGE AND DR. OWENS -- >> DR. OWENS, YOU BRING US THROUGH THIS PART ONE OF YOUR PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF US. >> I CAN CERTAINLY DOUGH THAT. I THINK THAT DR. SIZLER HAS COVERED A LOT OF THAT. SO, IF YOU DON'T MIND I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS. THAT WAS PART ONE. I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON PART TWO AND THREE. PART TWO IS MORE EMBELLISH MINTS OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF IN SUFFICIENT SLEEP. FINALLY I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE DATA THAT SUGGESTS VERY STRONGLY THAT HEALTHY SCHOOL START TIMES MITIGATE SOME OF THE IMPACT, NEGATIVE IMPACT OF IN SUFFICIENT SLEEP. SO, SOME OF THIS IS -- DR. SIZLER HAS COVERED IN A OVER VIEW. I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THAT THE FIRST AND THIRD LEADING CAUSE OF DEATHS IN ADOLESCENCE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 15 AND 19 ARE UNINTENTIONAL INJURIES. INCLUDING DROWSY DRIVING CRASHES AND THE THIRD MOST COMMON CAUSE OF DEATH IS SUICIDE. SO, THE FACT THAT IN SUFFICIENT SLEEP IMPACTS BOTH OF THOSE HUGE CAUSES OF MORTALITY IN THE ADOLESCENCE POPULATION REALLY HAS MADE THIS BECOME A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. IT'S AN ACADEMIC ISSUE, EDUCATIONAL ISSUE. FIRST AND FOR MOST IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. SO, I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE TIME TALKING ABOUT SLEEP AND REGULATION OF MOOD AND BEHAVIOR. WE KNOW WHEN INDIVIDUALS ARE SLEEP DEPRAOEUFRD IN EXPERIMENTAL SETTINGS AND THEY HAVE PICTURES TAKEN OF THEIR BRAINS UNDER THOSE CONDITIONS ONE MAYOR MOST IMPACTED WITH THE PREFRONTAL CORTEX IT GOVERNS WHAT WE CALL DECISION MAKING, PLANNING, PROBLEM SOLVING, OBSERVING BEHAVIORS AND ANTICIPATING CONSEQUENCES, MODULATION OF EMOTIONS. NOT ONLY THAT, THIS IS A PART OF THE BRAIN UNDERGOING TREMENDOUS CHANGES PARTICULARLY DURING ADOLESCENCE. WE'RE HITTING THESE KIDS WITH A SPECIFIC TOXIN AT THE TIME THE BRAIN IS MOST RAPIDLY DEVELOPING HERE. SIMILARLY WE KNOW THAT SLEEPDEPRIVATION IMPACTS THE EMOTIONAL BRAIN. THAT MEANS THERE IS A HEIGHTENED EMOTIONAL RESPONSE PARTICULARLY TO NEGATIVE STIMULI. ALSO WITH LESS CONTROL OVER THAT RESPONSE. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT EMOTIONAL REGULATION IN TEENAGERS. YOU KNOW A LOT OF WHAT WE ATTRIBUTE TO HORMONES MAY ACTUALLY BE DUE IN TERMS OF THEIR EMOTION OTHER REACTIVITY MAYBE DUE TO CHRONIC SLEEP LOSS. A THIRD AREA OF THE BRAIN SELECTIVELY IMPACTED BY IN SUFFICIENT SLEEP IS THE STRIATUM. THAT REGULATES SLEEP CONTROL. -- THEY PERCEIVE LESS IN THE WAY OF NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES FOR RISK TAKING BEHAVIOR. THAT PLAYS OUT IN A MYRIAD OF CONCERNS. THINGS LIKE SUBSTANCE USE. THINGS LIKE UNHEALTHY SEXUAL OR EARLY SEXUAL BEHAVIOR. MAKING POOR DECISIONS. USING ALCOHOL AND PARTICULARLY DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF ALCOHOL. A HOST OF ADOLESCENT RISK TAKING BE HAIR. WE KNOW ARE IMPACTED BY IN SUFFICIENT SLEEPPĶ/cm THIS. IS A(SLIDE FROM THE -- FROM THE CENTER OF DISEASE CONTROL. A STUDY WHICH LOOKED AT COMPARISON OF STUDENTS WHO GET LESS THAN EIGHT HOURS HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS VERSUS MORE HOURS. THESE RISK BEHAVIORS MORE LIKELY INVOLVED IN PHYSICAL FIGHTS, SMOKING MARIJUANA BEING SEXUALLY ACTIVE, FEELING SAD OR HOPELESS. THEY'RE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE COMMON IN STUDENTS GETTING THAT LESS AMOUNT OF SLEEP. DR. SIZLER ELUDED TO THE ISSUE OF INCREASED OBESITY RISK AND MET OWE BOT I CAN DYSFUNCTION BEING LINKED TO IN SUFFICIENT SLEEP IN CHILDREN AND ADOLESCENCE AS WELL. THAT PROBABLY REFLECTS HORMONAL CHANGES AND CAN BE IMPACTED BY BEHAVIORAL CHANGES LINKED TO IN SUFFICIENT SLEEP. FOR EXAMPLE STUDENTS WITH LESS SLEEP IS LESS LIKELY TO EAT SLEEP. THAT'S A RISK FACTOR FOR OBESITY. CHILDREN NOT GETTING ENOUGH SLEEP, MAYBE TOO TIRED TO EXERCISE. THAT ALSO PLAY THOSE THE, LEGITIMATE CONCERN ABOUT ATHLETICS AND ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE. I WOULD MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE AND THE RISK OF INJURIES MAYBE IMPACTED UPON BY SLEEP. NOT GETTING ENOUGH SLEEP. THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. THIS NEXT SLIDE TOUCHES ON THAT. WE KNOW THAT A -- SUBSTANTIAL PERCENTAGE OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO ARE DRIVING, ADMIT TO DRIVING DROWSY. WE KNOW THAT I AM PARENTS ASSOCIATED WITH DROWSY DRIVING CAN BE EQUIVALENT TO THE CONSUMPTION OF THREE TO FOUR BEERS. IE BEING MODERATELY INTOXICATED. A PARENT NEVER ALLOWING A TEENAGER TO KNOWINGLY GET BEHIND THE WHOLE HAVING CONSUMED THROW OR FOUR BEERS, ALLOW THAT'S TO HAPPEN DAILY WHEN KIDS DRIVE THEMSELVES TO AND FROM SCHOOL. WE THOUGH SLEEP LOSS IS RELATED TO PEDESTRIAN INJURIES. FOR EXAMPLE IN CHILDREN, WE KNOW FROM AT LEAST ONE STUDY THAT SLEEP LOSS IS ASSOCIATED WITH INCREASED SPORTS RELATED INJURED IN HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETES. ALSO ASSOCIATED WITH ALMOST A THREEFOLD RISK FOR ADOLESCENCE HAVING WORK RELATED INJURIES THAT REQUIRE MEDICAL CARE. IT GOES BEYOND SCHOOL. IT IMPACTS ATHLETIC PERFORMANCE, LIKELY OF GETTING INJURIES. BOTH ON THE PLAYING FIELD AND AFTER SCHOOL JOBS. SO, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OTHERWISE I WILL MOVE ONTO THE THIRD SECTION. >> OKAY. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >> IS ONE OF THE THINGS I APPRECIATE SWITCHING TO PART THEE. THE ATHLETIC PIECE IS IMPORTANT AND AFTER SCHOOL ENRICHMENT. IN BOSTON WE ALSO HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT ARE WORKING AFTER SCHOOL, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF A PART TIME ACTIVITY BUT THEY'RE ALSO SUPPORTING FAMILY INCOME. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALSO MEN THAT WORK RELATED PIECE AS WELL. >> I GOT THAT. I GOT YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >> SO, THIS, I WILL TRY TO BE BRIEF. THIS -- HERE I WILL PRESENT THE EVIDENCE SUPPORTING HEALTHY SCHOOL START TIMES AS A MEANS OF IMPROVING HEALTH, SAFETY AND PERFORMANCE FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. IT'S BEEN ELUDE STOOD SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY. THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS IN 2014 CAME OUT IN FAVOR OF THIS. THIS WAS A FOUR-YEAR PROCESS AND A WELL VETTED DECISION ON PART OF THE AP. I'M TRULY DELIGHTED. IT HAS MADE A BIG IMPACT ON SCHOOL DISTRICTS WILLINGNESS TO THINK ABOUT THIS. AS MENTIONED EARLIER THIS CONCEPT OF CHANGING SCHOOL START TIMES, DELAYING START TIMES DATES BACK TO THE MID 1990s. WHEN IN MINNESOTA THEY STARTED START TIMES. WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT FIGURE ON SCHOOL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY DOING THIS. WE THINK AT LEAST A THOUSAND HIGH SCHOOLS, MORE THAN A HUNDRED DISTRICTS IN 43 STATES HAVE CHANGED START TIMES. ALMOST NONE WITH A RARE EXCEPTION HAVE GONE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BELL TIMES. THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT STATEMENT. OVER ALL WE KNOW LESS THAN TO PERCENT OF MID AND HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE U.S. START AT THE RECOMMENDED 8:30 AND LATER. YOU HAVE HEARD THE FIGURES OF BOSTON AND MASSACHUSETS INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH. THINK THIS IS A IMPORTANT POINT AS WELL. STUDENTS IN EARLIER STARTING SCHOOLS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE IN A ETHNIC MINORITY. TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR FREE HRUPB SKP-FP LESS EDUCATED PARENTS. SO THIS ISSUE OF EARLY SCHOOL START TIMES MAY WELL DISPORTION ATELY AFFECT THE POOREST CHILDREN AND CHILDREN FROM RACIAL AND ETHNIC MINE OEFRPLTS THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND. THIS SHOWS MASSACHUSETS DOES NOT LOOK TERRIBLY GOOD OVER ALL IN COMPARISON WITH THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. BE THAT AS IT MAY WE'RE HERE TO CHANGE THAT. SO WHAT ARE SOME OUT COMES THAT HAVE BEEN -- BED TIMES REMAIN THE SAME OR SOME STUDIES INCLUDING OUR OWN THEY SHIFT SOMEWHAT EARLIER. THIS MISS CONSUMPTION THAT KIDS WILL STAY UP ANOTHER HOUR IF SCHOOL STARTS LATER HAS NOT BEEN BORN OUT IN ANY OF THE PUBLISHED STUDIES. AS A RESULT STUDENTS GET MORE SLEEP. PARTICULARLY THAT MORNING, CRITICAL SLEEP WHERE THEY GET#xlũz REM SLEEP RAPID EYE MOVEMENT SLEEP. IN TWO STUDIES WE HAVE DONE, EVEN A 30-MINUTE DELAY CAN RESULT IN IMPROVEMENTS. PARTICULARLY IF THE SCHOOL START TIME CHANGE GOES TO 8:30 OR LATER. THAT'S A REALLY CRITICAL PIECE HERE. STUDENTS REPORT LESS SLEEP IN CLASS, DOING HOMEWORK, ETCETERA, SCHOOL PERFORMANCE, ATTENDANCE IMPROVES. TARDY RATES DROP. DROP OUT RATES DECLINE IN THE MINNEAPOLIS SCHOOL SYSTEM FOR EXAMPLE. STANDARDIZED TEST SCORES IMPROVE, GRADES IMPROVE, AND IT MAYBE AGAIN THE DISADVANTAGE STUDENTS MAY BENEFIT RELATIVELY MORE. THERE MAYBE A LARGER AFFECT OF DELAYING SCHOOL START TIMES AT THE LOWER END OF GRADE DISTRIBUTIONS. STUDENTS DOING POORLY TO BEGIN WITH BUT ALSO MAY AFFECT RACIAL AND ETHNIC MINORITIES AS WELL. HEALTH AND SAFETY, SCHOOL START TIMES THAT ARE -- DELAYED ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IMPROVED MOOD, LESS DEPRESSIVE SYSTEMS, LESS SUICIDAL THOUGHTS. DECREASED CYSTS TO THE SCHOOL HEALTH CENTER, LOWER HEALTHCARE COSTS, AND SAFETY. ONE OF THE MOST IMPRESSIVE THINGS IN MY MIND IS KHA +*EUPBGDZ CHANGES IN SCHOOL START TIMES CAN LEAD TO AS MUCH AS A 65-70% REDUCTION OR BE ASSOCIATED WITH, I SHOULD SAY, IN CAR CRASHES IN THE ADOLESCENT POPULATION. IT'S HARD FOR ME AS A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSON TO IMAGINE A PUBLIC HEALTH MEASURE WITH THAT BIG OF A BANG FOR THE BUCKS. SPEAKING OF BUCKS, THE BOOKINGS INSTITUTE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, PUBLISHED A SUMMARY OF THE THREE MOST IMPACTFUL KHAEUBGZ PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO MAKE TO IMPROVE EARNING POTENTIAL AMONG STUDENTS. ONE OF THE THROW WAS DELAYING HIGH SCHOOL START TIMES. THAT THE COST OF CHANGING START TIMES WHICH IS USUALLY LARGELY RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION COSTS IS OFF SET BY A IMPROVEMENT IN STANDARDIZED TEST SCORES AND INCREASED EARNING POTENTIAL EVENTUALLY. THIS HAS HUGE REPERCUSSIONS FOR STUDENTS ECONOMICALLY AT A DISADVANTAGE. THERE ARE CHALLENGES WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT. COSTS, THE ISSUE OF ATHLETIC PRACTICES, AFTER SCHOOL EMPLOYMENT, CHILD CARE FOR YOUNGER SIBLINGS. ADJUSTMENTS IN KPAEURPBTS WORK SCHEDULES. OVER ALL, AS I'M SURE WILL YOU HEAR FROM ALL OF US IS THAT MOOSE WILL THESE ADJUSTMENTS ARE SUCCESSFULLY MADE BY COMMUNITIES. MAINLY THE ANTICIPATION OUT WEIGHS WHAT TRANSPIRES IN ALL CHALLENGES. I WOULD MAKE A BOLD STATEMENT THAT TO DO NOTHING IS TO DO HARM. I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT IN YOUR DELIBERATIONS. >> THANK YOU, SO MUCH. COUNCILLOR GEORGE. >> >> SO THE DOCTORS HAVE MENTIONED NATIONAL HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE SUPPORTING LATER SCHOOL START TIMES. I WANTED TO ADD THE MASSACHUSETS MEDICAL SOCIETY JOINS THAT COURSE OF VOICES LAST YEAR AT THEIR ANNUAL MEETING THEY ADOPTED A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS STATEMENT ON SCHOOL START TIME. IT'S NOT JUST THE MASSACHUSETS MEDICAL COMMUNITY THAT IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS. OUR OWN MASSACHUSETS ASSOCIATION OF SCHOOL COMMITTEES IN 2015 NOVEMBER MEETINGS ADOPTED A RESOLUTION SCIENTIFIC MERIT CHANGING START TIMES OF SCHOOL AND CALLING FOR A STUDY OF THE ISSUES AND POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS. TOWNS ACROSS THE STATE HAVE BEGAN TO ACT. THERE ARE 14 TOWN BASE IT DID CHAPTERS OF START SCHOOL LATER. EACH ONE PRECEDING AT THE PACE THAT IS RIGHT FOR THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICT. IN ADDITION START SCHOOL LATER MASSACHUSETS IS AWARE OF 18 OTHER MASSACHUSETS TOWNS AND CITIES THAT ARE IMPLEMENTING OR LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT HEALTHY SCHOOL START TIMES FOR ADOLESCENCE. NOTABLY AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN ATHLETICS. THE MIDDLESEX ATHLETIC LEAGUE SUPERINTENDENT GOT TOGETHER AND ISSUED A PLEDGE THEY WOULD EACH CHANGE THE START OF THEIR HIGH SCHOOL START TIME TO BETWEEN 8:00 AND 8:30 A.M. BY THE FALL OF 2018. EFFECTIVELY TAKING ATHLETICS OFF THE TABLE AS A LODGISTIC OR REASON THIS CAN NOT BE DONE. THE SHAEURB HIGH SCHOOL PRINCIPAL. IMPLEMENTING LATER SCHOOL START TIME IN 2010 HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL SPEAKER AND ADVOCATE ACROSS THE STATE SLAYERING GENEROUSLY THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH LATER SCHOOL START TIMES WHEN ASKED ABOUT ATHLETICS I THINK HE'S A LITTLE IMPRESSED WITH HIS OWN POWER. HE SAID WE JUST TOLD OTHER SCHOOLS WHEN OUR KIDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE. THEY ADJUSTED TO US. WE DIDN'T ADJUST TO THEM. I'M WORKING WITH THE NORTH BOROUGH, SOUTH BOROUGH SCHOOL DISTRICT LOOKING AT THE CHANGE. >> THEY'RE LOOK AT TRANSPORTATION AS THE LAST REMAINING ISSUE TO RESOLVE. ATHLETICS ARE VERY IMPORTANT I THINK IT'S RESOLVABLE. IT IS NOT INSURMOUNTABLE IT SORT OF MAKES ME SMILE TO BE ON THIS PANEL WITH DR. SIZLER. I THINK HIS NICKNAME IS DR. SLEEP GIVEN TO HIM BY THE BOSTON CELTICS. HE WORKED WITH THE BOSTON CELTICS MANAGEMENT TO ADJUST THEIR PRACTICE SCHEDULES TO HELP IMPROVE THE ATHLETICS, EACH ATHLETES PERFORMANCE THIS. IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOW BEING TAKEN UP BY NOT ONLY OTHER PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES BUT NOW WORKING INTO COLLEGE ATHLETICS. LAST FALL THERE WAS A ARTICLE ABOUT SOME OF THE -- PROMINENT FOOTBALL TEAMS WHO BRING THEIR STUDENTS, THEIR COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYERS IN EARLY FOR -- PRACTICE BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS. THEY SET UP DORMITORIES AND THE COACHES SLEEP WITH THE KIDS. KEEPING CELLPHONES OFF AND LIGHTS OFF. THEY'RE FULLY COGNIZANT OF THE BODY OF RESEARCH THAT SLEEP AND ALGT LETTICS GO HAND AND HAND THIS. IS SOMETHING THAT THE HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETICS COULD CERTAINLY TAKE NOTICE OF. THE LIST OF TOWNS IN MASSACHUSETS THAT HAVE ALREADY MADE THE CHANGE. IT'S SUBSTANTIAL. ARLINGTON AND ASHLAND CHANGING IN FALL 2017. CANTON -- PHARLHEAD, CHARTER SCHOOLS, MEDWAY -- CHANGING IN FALL 2017 -- SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN OPERATING AT A LATER START TIME AS EARLY AS 2015. THEIR RESULTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE OUT COMES THAT DR. OWENS MENTIONED. THINGS LIKE A DRAMATIC DROP IN D AND F LETTER GRADES. IMPROVEMENTS IN TARDINESS RATES AND ABSENCES. >> THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO START WAY WHITE PIECE OF PAPER. SCHOOLS DO THIS. THEY MAY NOT LOOK EXACTLY LIKE BOSTON BUT HAVE A LOT OF SIMILARITIES TO BOSTON. FOR EXAMPLE IN FAIRFAX COUNTY, VIRGINIA, THE TENTH LARGEST DISTRICT IN THE UNITED STATES. MORE THAN 28 PERCENT OF STUDENTS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR FREE OR REDUCED PRICED MEALS. MORE THAN 17% RECEIVE ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE SKEFRBS. DEMOGRAPHICALLY 47 PERCENT ARE WHITE. 24 PERCENT ARE HISPANIC. 19 PERCENT ASIAN AMERICANS, 10 PERCENT AFRICAN AMERICANS, 5 PERCENT MULTI RACIAL. THE DISTRICTS FLEET OF 160 BUSES TRANSPORTS THESE STUDENTS DAILY. IN 2015 FAIRFAX CHANGED THE START TIME FROM 7:20 A.M. TO 8:00 TO 815 AO +*PL. THE DATA FROM THE CHANGE IS BEING ANALYZED AND HOPEFULLY AVAILABLE SOON. BEFORE A DEPOSITING THE CHANGE OFFICIALS GATHERED A LOT OF DATA ABOUT THE FAMILIES IN THEIR DISTRICT INCLUDING SURVEYS THAT THEY SPONSORED IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH TO DETERMINE THE FACTORS THAT WOULD PRESENT THE GREATEST CHALLENGES TO THEIR FAMILIES IN THEIR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. PRIOR TO RECEIVING THE SURVEY DATA THE COMMITTEE ASSUMED THE STARTING HIGH SCHOOL LATER WOULD DISRUPT CHILD CARE FOR ECONOMICALLY MARGINNIZED FAMILIES THIS. DATA DIDN'T SUPPORT THE ASSUMPTION. STUD THEY RECEIVED ANECDOTES ABOUT STUDENTS WORKING A EVENING SHIFT WITH PARENTS AND WHO ARE NOT HOME TO START HOMEWORK UNTIL AFTER 12:1 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. THEY HAVE WELCOMED A LATER START TIME TO GET ADDITIONAL SLEEP AND BE ABLE BETTER TO LEARN. A KEYLESS ON IS SCHOOL DISTRICTS GATHERING DATA ABOUT THE NEEDS OF FAMILIES IN THEIR DISTRICT BEFORE DECIDING WHICH ISSUES ARE OR ARE NOT A PRIORITY. ANOTHER CRITICAL MESSAGE FROM FAIRFAX COUNTY AND EVERY SUCCESSFUL CHANGE IS THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN WILL CHARACTERISTICS. ONE IS LEADERSHIP. IF YOUR SUPERINTENDENT ISN'T ONBOARD THIS IS GOING NOWHERE. TWO, EDUCATION OF ALL STAKE HOLDERS FROM THE WIDER SCHOOL COMMUNITY ABOUT WHY ARE YOU MESSING WITH THE PERSONAL LOGISTICS OF THE FAMILY. THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHY. OTHERWISE THERE WILL BE A LOT OF DISGRUNTLED FAMILIES. THIS EFFORT WOULD GO NOWHERE. AUTHENTIC ENGAGEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY TO ADDRESS AND ADHERE THE CONCERNS AND FEARS WARRANTED OR NOT, LETTING PEOPLE VENT MATTERS. SUFFICIENT TIME BEFORE THE CHANGE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE THE NECESSARY ADJUSTMENTS TO FAMILY, WORK, EXTRA CIRCULAR AND CHILD CARE SCHEDULES THAT IS THE FACTORS TO MAKE THIS CHANGE SUCCESSFUL. THE MINNEAPOLIS SCHOOL DISTRICT MADE THIS CHANGE IN THE 1990s. ABOUT 23% OF THE MINNEAPOLIS STUDENTS ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ENGLISH LEARNER SERVICES. 74% HAVE AT LEAST ONE ENGLISH LEARNER AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT. IN SPRING OF 2014, FOUR THOUSAND STUDENTS WERE BORN OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES REPRESENTING 114 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. -- COMPARED WITH 57% OF THE NON ENGLISH LEARNER POPULATION. AS OF 2013, 4 PERCENT OF ENGLISH LEARNERS ARE CONSIDERED HOMELESS OR HIGHLY MOBILE. 13.6 PERCENT OF ALL ENGLISH LEARNERS QUALIFY FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES. IN THE LATE 90s THE MINNEAPOLIS SCHOOL DISTRICT PROVIDED CHILDREN WITH MORE THAN 8 UNEXCUSED ABSENCES OR TARRED HE'S PER CEMENTSTER IS AUTOMATIC WHRAOE DROPPED FROM THE CLASS. A STUDENT WHO SLEEPS OR MISSES A SCHOOL BUS IN THE MORNING AND MISSING THE FIRST HOUR OR TWO OF SCHOOL IS AUTOMATICALLY DROPPED FROM THE ENROLLMENT LIST. TO AVOID HAVING THESE AVOID A TRANSCRIPT MANY STUDENTS WITH DRAW FROM THE SCHOOL AND REENROLL IN A NEIGHBORING SCHOOL IN THE DISTRICT. AT TIMES THERE WERE SO MANY STUDENTS MOVING THAT TRANSCRIPTS COULDN'T KEEP UP WITH THE MOVEMENTS. THE 1997-98 SCHOOL YEAR THEY MOVED BELL TIMES FROM 7:15 A.M. TO 8:00 AND 8:15 A.M. THE CHANGE RESULTED IN STATISTICALLY MORE STUDENTS REMAINING ENROLLED IN THE SAME DISTRICT OR SCHOOL. SEVERAL SUBSEQUENT STUDIES OF THE STUDENT PERFORMANCE BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ITSELF FOUND STUDENTS REMAINING IN THE SCHOOLS AND DISTRICT HAVE A HIGHER SCORE ON ACHIEVEMENT TESTS AND HAVE HIGHER RATES OF GRADUATION AND SCHOOL COMPLETION THEN STUDENTS THAT MOVE SCHOOL TO SCHOOL. HAVING A LATER START TIME FOR THE FIRST HOUR OF CLASS APPEARS TO HAVE ENABLED MORE STUDENTS NOT TO OVER SLEEP AND ARRIVE TO SCHOOL ON TIME. FINALLY THIS FALL SEATING PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM CHANGED THEIR START TIME. THEY SERVE MANY ETHIC GROUPS. TO ADDRESS THEIR ISSUES SEATTLE PERFORMED A STAKE HOLDER TASK FORCE GATHERING INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY AND PREPARING RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY CONDUCTED SURVEYS OF THE FAMILIES IN THE DISTRICT TO FIND OUT THEIR CONCERNS IF THE ACADEMIC DAY CHANGED TO A LATER TIME. THE SEATTLE SURVEY AND THE ANALYSIS OFFERS EXCELLENT IDEAS FOR ANY URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT SEEKS TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF SCHOOL START CHANGE FOR THE IMPACT OF A SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY FOUND SUPPORT FOR LATER SCHOOL TIMES ACROSS FAMILIES OF RACIAL AND ETHNIC LINES. THE ISSUE THEY FOCUSED ON IS AFTER SCHOOL CHILD CARE AND AFTER SCHOOL STUDENT EMPLOYMENT. APPROXIMATELY 50 PERCENT FROM PACIFIC ISLANDER, HISPANIC AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS RESPONDED IF THEY CARE FOR YOUNGER CHILDREN AFTER SCHOOL COMPARED TO 27 PERCENT AND 43 PERCENT FOR OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS. ALTHOUGH THE RATE OF AFTER SCHOOL EMPLOYMENT WAS LOW FOR HIGH SCHOOL POPULATION AS A WHOLE, THE RATE OF AFTER SCHOOL EMPLOYMENT WAS HIGHER FOR NATIVE AMERICAN, AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND HISPANIC STUDENTS. EVEN SO THOSE ETHNIC GROUPS FAVORED LATER START TIMES. THE SURVEY PRESENTED VARIOUS OPTIONS INCLUDE NOTHING CHANGE AT ALL TO THE BELL TIME. AND ASKED RESPOND ENDS TO INDICATE THEIR PREFERENCE. ONCE CHANGE STOOD OUT WITH STRONG SUPPORT. EVEN WHEN ANALYZED BY RACE AND ETHNICITY. THIS WAS APPROVED AND IMPLEMENTED THIS PAST FALL. HEALTHY, SAFE, AND -- HEALTH, SAFETY AND ACADEMIC BENEFITS FOR ADOLESCENCE ARE CLEAR. HOW SCHOOLS GET TO THE GOAL VARY. THE JOURNEY STARTS WAY UNCOMPROMISING BELIEF IN OPERATING SCHOOLS IN A WAY THAT OPTIMIZES HEALTH AND SAFETY SO OUR CHILDREN HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE. SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT ARE DETERMINED TO OBTAIN THIS OUT COME HAVE DONE SO AND DOCUMENTED THEIR PATH TO SUCCESS. NOTHING SHOULD STAND IN BOSTON'S WAY OF FOLLOWING THE SUCCESSFUL URBAN SCHOOL DISTRICTS. THE GOAL IS OUR FOR THE TAKING. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH COUNCILLOR GEORGE. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY AND PRESENTATION TODAY. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT TWEAKING A SCHOOL SCHEDULE AT A SMALLER, SMALLER SEGMENT OPPOSED TO 730s TO 830 THRAO +*EUPL OR 9:00. IS THERE A BENEFIT TO PUSH TO 20 MINUTES TO 30 MINUTES? IT'S NOT QUITE THE RECOMMEND THE START TIME BUT CLOSER AND SENSITIVE TO THE NODES OF OUR FAMILIES AND KIDS. >> YOU KNOW I THINK IF YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I WOULD OF SAID -- TO A CERTAIN EXTENT I BELIEVE ANY DELAY IN SCHOOL START TIME IS GOING TO HAVE SOME BENEFIT FOR STUDENTS. I THINK THERE IS AN EMERGING STORY THAT THIS 8:30 START TIME BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST HOW MUCH SLEEP YOU GET, IT'S WHEN YOU SLEEP. THAT IS REALLY CRITICAL. IN ORDER FOR STUDENTS SKEWED AOULZ TO MEASURE THEIR UNDERLYING BIOLOGY -- STUDENTS TO MEASURE THEIR UNDERLYING BOYOLOGY THE 8:30 START TIME OR LATER SEEMS TO BE MUCH MORE IN CONCERT WITH WHAT THE UNDERLYING BIOLOGY LOOKS LIKE. THINK POTENTIALLY HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON THE BENEFITS THAT YOU MAY SEE AS A RESULT OF CHANGING START TIMES. HAVING SAID THAT I WOULDN'T DISCOURAGE YOU FROM ANY MOVEMENT IN THAT DIRECTION. IN A WAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO DISRUPT THE COMMUNITY AND FIGHT THE FIGHT IT MAKES SENSE TO GO TO A TIME THAT WHERE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET HOPEFULLY THE LARGEST BENEFIT FOR THE CHANGES THAT YOU WILL MAKE. >> RIGHT. >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THE DOCTOR. THAT -- IT'S ALMOST, YOU KNOW GOING FROM 7:20 TO 7:45 OR 7:40. IT WILL HAVE ALL OF THE NEGATIVE AFFECTS OF THE DISRUPTION AND THE CHANGE WITHOUT ACTUALLY YIELDING A POSITIVE BENEFICIAL EFFECT. SO, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TRY TO KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE PRIZE, AS IT WERE. ONE OF THE THINGS. THE DISTRICTS GOING THE 15, 20 MINUTES IT'S THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM CONCERNS. IN FAREFAX, VIRGINIA, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS A YEAR, I THINK $900,000 A YEAR IN THE TRANSPORTATION PROJECT. IT WAS A FANTASTIC AMOUNT. THE BENEFIT YOU HAVE HERE IN THE BOSTON CITY SCHOOLS IS THAT YOU DON'T PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION. SO, IF ANYTHING -- >> FOR MOST OF OUR SKIDS. THOSE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS RECEIVE TRANSPORTATION. MOST OF OUR STUDENTS DON'T. >> RIGHT. >> I MEAN IN TERMS OF THE FLOAT OF A THOUSAND BUSES THEY HAVE AT FAIRFAX COUNTY . I DON'T KNOW THE VEHICLES INVOLVED HERE. FURTHER MORE I WOULD MAGIC THEY'RE NOT, ISSUES WITH THE FLEET WHEN THEY START AT THE SAME TIME. IT'S -- WHERE THEY'RE TRANSPORTING THE GRADE SCHOOL KIDS. IT IS DIFFICULT TO MOVE THAT. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT A LOGISTICAL BURDEN BUT LESS HERE. IT MAYBE A BENEFIT AS THE COUNCILLOR MENTIONED IN TERMS OF OFFSETTING THE CRUSH OF MANY OTHER PEOPLE GETTING TO THEIR JOBS. >> NOW DR. SIZLER THE MENTIONED ORGANIZED ACTIVITIES ENDING AT 10:00 O'CLOCK. 8:00 O'CLOCK. I THINK THOSE THAT DO WORK END AFTER 8:00 O'CLOCK. THIS WOULD SUPPORT AN ARGUMENT FOR EVEN A LATER START TIME THE NEXT TKAEUFPLT. >> I WOULD SAY IF YOU KEEP THE START TIMES AT 7:00 THEN IN ORDER TO HAVE AN ELEVEN HOUR INTERVAL NO SCHOOL ACTIVITIES YOU NEED TO END AT 8:00. IF YOU WERE TO MOVE THE SCHOOL TIMES TO 8:30 THEN THAT -- >> BRINGS TO YOU 9:30. >> YES. >> SO, WHICH IS SORT OF MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING. >> WHAT IS AN APPROPRIATE BEDTIME AND SLEEP TIME. I SECOND MY KIDS TO BED DOESN'T MEAN THEY FALL A SLEEP. WHAT IS THE BED TIME AND SLEEP TIME FOR TEENAGERS? >> ONE OF THE THINGS, THERE WAS A STUDY DONE AND PARENTS WHO HAVE AT LEAST A SORT OF AN OFFICIAL BED TIME OF 10:00 P.M. THE KIDS ARE HIGHER RISK OF SUICIDALLIZATION IT'S NOT WORLD WAR 3 ENFORCED AT 10:00 O'CLOCK. SOMETIMES THERE ARE OTHER ACTIVITIES. THERE NEEDS TO BE -- THAT SHOULD BE A TARGET. >> 10:00 P.M. >> YES, THINK THAT'S IDEAL. >> YES. I THINK THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT MANY TEENAGERS HAVE DIFFICULTY FALLING A SLEEP MUCH BEFORE 11:00. >> IF THEY ARE, YOU KNOW THE LATEST RECOMMENDATION THIS IS YEAR FROM THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF SLEEP MEDICINE IS THAT ADOLESCENCE BETWEEN 13-18 GET 8-10 HOURS OF SWHRAOEP A NIGHT. DO YOU THE MATH AND THEY CAN'T STALL A SLEEP BEFORE 11, I WILL SAY THAT IS FURTHER COMPOUNDED BY EXPOSER TO SCREENS AND TEXTING AND YOU KNOW ALL KINDS OF OTHER COMPETING PRIORITIES FOR SLEEP. PARTICULARLY THE SCREEN EXPOSURE. THAT BLUE LIGHT THAT IS EMITD FROM A COMPUTER AND TELEVISION SCREEN SUPPRESSES THE BODY RELEASE OF MELATONIN AND MAKES IT HARD TORE FALL A SLEEP THERE. ARE ENVIRONMENTAL PIECES TO THIS. THOSE AUGMENT THIS UNDERLYING BIOLOGICAL CHANGE THAT OCCURS AT PUBERTY. THEY DO NOT CAUSE IN AND OF ITSELF TEENAGERS UNABLE TO FALL A SLEEP. >> I WILL SAY 10:00 O'CLOCK FOR MY KIDS AT TEENAGERS. I WANT TO SAY -- THAT WILL BE THE END OF IT I WANT TO GET TO MY COLLEAGUES. >> I WANT TO REFERENCE WHAT COUNCILLOR McCARTHY -- MENTIONED. THE IMPORTANCE IN KEEPING WITH WHAT DR. OWENS SAID. GETTING THE GADGETS OUT OF THE BEDROOMS, TVs. I THINK THAT PART OF WHAT YOU DO HERE THERE SHOULD BE A SLEEP HEALTH EDUCATION PROGRAM PROVIDED TO BOTH THE CHILDREN AND PARENTS OF THE CHILDREN SO THEY UNDERSTAND. MANY PARENTS WILL NOT REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE -- 10% OF PARENTS WITH A TV IN THE BEDROOM THEY DO SO TO HELP THE KIDS FALL A SLEEP. I BET YOU WEREN'T -- IN TERMS OF PARENTS MY PARENTS WERE LIKE WHY DID I GET A SLOPE DOCTOR FOR A FATHER. >> COUNCILLOR OWE MALE . >> THANK YOU, MY FIRST QUESTION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. WE HAVE THREE EXPERTS AND WILL ASK ANYWAYS. WHAT IS THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNT OF SLEEP FOR A HEALTHY ADULT. >> 7-9 HOURS. >> 7 SEEMS TO BE THE BREAK POINT. IF YOU HABITUALLY GET LESS THAN THAT, YOU OPEN YOURSELF UP TO COGNITIVE ISSUES. >> WHEN WE SAY 7-9 OR 7-10. UNFORTUNATELY INDIVIDUALS DON'T GET TO CHOOSE AND SAY I HAVE TIME FOR 1. THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL DIFFERENCES IN THE NEED OF SLEEP. NOW NEEDLESS THAN 7. SOME NEED 8. SOME NEED 9. >> MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, VIRTUALLY RIP AT COMMUNITY MEETINGS LATE AND UP EARLY AT KAY COMMUNITY MEETING. I WILL QUOTE THIS GETTING OUT EARLY. >> THE ELEVEN HOUR INTERVAL. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, ALL THIS. IS VERY INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION. THE THIRD PART, THE SLIDES ON THE OUTCOME ARE REMARKABLE. YOU KNOW WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS MORE A MATTER OF MONTHS NOW. IT SEEMS TO ME PARENTS HAVE -- MOST PARENTS ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. SOME BRING LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. THINK YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD. A ROW BEST COMMUNICATION PROCESS. I HEAR THIS IS GREAT. WE NEED TO DO THIS. OR THE OTHER HAND WHAT ABOUT SCHOOL SPORTS AND AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND WORK. IT DOES SEEM TO ME IF WE COULD HAVE A CONSISTENT MODEL ACROSS THE BOARD. AT 8:30 OR LATER WE WOULD NOT ONLY ALLOW FOR AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES, JOBS, SPORTS, HE CAN SET RARBGS WE WOULD ALSO HAVE THESE REALLY REMARKABLE OUT COMES. ONE OF THE STATISTICS THAT SAT SCORES GO UP AN AVERAGE OF 200 POINTS. THAT'S REMARKABLE. UTTERLY REMARKABLE. TOP TEN OF STUDENTS INCREASE MORE THAN TO 0 POINTS. EVERYTHING UNDERSTAND SCORES THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS. ONE THING YOU MAY OF HEARD AND WHAT THE MAYOR IS TACKLING THE DIFFERENT MODELS. THE 27 OR 28 DIFFERENT MODELS OF SCHOOL. THE FACT WE HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT START TIMES IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN YOUR RESEARCH. LIKE THE CHANGE, DID THEY HAVE A SIMILAR QUIRK OF DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, START TIMES OR ALL HIGH SCHOOLS? >> -- UNUSUAL WITH THIS VARIETY. MOST HAVE A BELL TIME THE SAME ACROSS THE ENTIRE -- >> THAT'S BECAUSE OF THIS TIERED SYSTEM IN MANY COMMUNITIES. YOU DROP OFF A GROUP OF KIDS BEFORE PICKING UP ANOTHER. IN THE TIER ALL OF THE SCHOOLS HAVE TO START AT THE SAME TIME. YOU DON'T HAVE THAT HERE AS MUCH. PROBABLY EVOLVED OVERTIME IN A WAY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IN OTHER PLACES. >> I WOULD SAY THAT BOLSTERED OUR ARGUMENT OF A UNIFORMED HIGH SCHOOL TIME IS LESS OF A -- MORE ACHIEVABLE GIVEN THE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM AND SPORT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BOSTON, THE OLDEST SCHOOL, IN THE DUAL COUNTY LEAGUE, MOST PLAY EACH OTHER THE SPORTING EVENT, LOSING OUT ON OPPORTUNITIES TO PLAY OTHERS WOULD BE LESS OF A CONCERN. >> COUNCILLOR O'MALLEY ON REGARD TO THE BOSTON LATIN SCHOOL A NUMBER OF TOWNS IN THEIR SCHOOL LEAGUE ARE HAVE CHAPTERS STARTING SCHOOL LATER. THE PEOPLE HEADING THOSE TOWN CHAPTERS ARE ALL TRYING TO GET TOGETHER TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET THEIR ATHLETIC CONFERENCE TO DO WHAT MIDDLESEX DID. >> THAT'S A EXCELLENT POINT. THANK YOU, MARY. >> I THINK WE HAVE SEEN COUNT LESS DISTRICTS ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH AND THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE DONE THIS. I THINK THIS IS AN AREA WHERE BOSTON LAGS BEHIND A BIT IN TERMS OF THE AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES. IT'S VITALLY IMPORTANT. WE CAN ADDRESS THAT AND THE GOOD OF THIS. THANK YOU. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE QUICK ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. ONE IS A ISSUE. A LOT OF STUDENTS THINK SLEEPING LATER ON THE WEEKEND THEY COMPENSATE FOR THE CHRONIC SLEEP LOSS THEY EXPERIENCE DURING THE WEEK. IN FACT THAT MAKES THE SITUATION WORST IT HAS RESULTED IN A PHENOMENON WE CALL SOCIAL JET LAG. THEY'RE TRYING TO PUSH L. BED TIMES AND WAKE TIMES LATER ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT. COME SUNDAY NIGHT THEY'RE NOT AWAKE LONG ENOUGH TO FALL A SLEEP. IT'S LIKE FLYING FROM BOSTON TO LA EVERY WEEKEND. IT TAKES ONE DAY TO CROSS TIME ZONES. IT'S HARDER TO COME IN THE EASTWARD DIRECTION. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE WITH JET LAG. THAT'S WHAT THE KIDS ARE LIVING UNDER. EVEN FOR THE STUDENTS WHO ARE NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE EXTRA CIRCULAR ACTIVITIES AND JOBS THERE IS A FEDERAL BILL IN CON DEPRESS CALLED THE Zs TO As ACT. SUPPORTED FROM A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CALIFORNIA. IT WAS ORIGINALLY FRAMED AS AN ANTI TEEN AND CRIME PREGNANCY BILL. THE IDEA WAS THE KIDS WERE HOME FROM SCHOOL SO EARLY THAT THE INTERVAL BETWEEN GETTING HOME FROM SCHOOL AND PARENTS HOME FROM WORK IS A TIME THEY COULD GET INTO TROUBLE. I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT NOT ONLY WHEN SCHOOL STARTS IN THE MORNING BUT BENEFITS TO ENDING LATER AS WELL. >> YES. THEY'RE ON THE NEXT PANEL. WE HAVE STUDENTS WHO WANT TO GET HOME SO THEY CAN GO TO SLEEP. >> APPARENTLY THEY HAVE TO GO TO SLEEP IN ABOUT A HALF HOUR SOMEWHERE. >> YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS I HAD REGARDING THE NUMBER OF PROGRAMS, START SCHOOL LATER PROGRAMS. WE HAVE 57,000 STUDENTS HERE. MOST OF THEM ARE ON BUSES. I'M SURE WE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER. YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT CATCHING UP ON THE WEEKEND. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IT IS WHAT I HAVE. ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE LATER START TIMES, IF SCHOOL STARTS AT 8:15. WE TALK ABOUT SPORTS BUT THERE IS THEATER, ARTS, MUSIC. A LOT OF THINGS. >> IF THEY'RE NOT STARTING PRACTICE UNTIL 4:30. THAT'S GOING TO 6:30. NOW BY THE TIME IT'S 7:30 WHEN THEY'RE HOME. YOU EAT AT 7:30 THEN YOU HAVE TWO TO THREE HOURS OF HOMEWORK IF THEY'RE ON TOP OF THE BALL GAME. NOW THAT'S BACK TO 11:00 O'CLOCK, 10:30 OR 11 KHR +*BGS ANYWAYS. WHEN MIKE SAID EARLY TO BED, EARLY TO RISE. I WAS LAUGHING. MY DAD USE TO POUND THAT IN OUR HEADS. WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THE HOMEWORK YOU HAVE A BOWL OF ICE CREAM OR GLASS OF MILK, DID YOU TO BED THAT'S THE END OF. THAT WHEN THE ALARM WENT OFF YOU GET UP AND OFF YOU WENT. WHEN I LOOK AT THE ONE COMPARISON CHART THAT COUNCILLOR O'MALLEY REFERENCED. IT'S INTERESTING DATA. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BALANCE IS BETWEEN COMPARING THAT FOR HOME LIFE VERSUS SIMPLY SLEEP DEPRIVATION. THERE IS A LOT. PHYSICAL FIGHT, SMOKING, MARIJUANA, SEXUALLY ACTIVE, SAD, HOPELESS, CREDITING SUICIDE. I'M TIRED A LOT, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN A LOT. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN CLARIFY THAT CHART AND WHERE IT CAME FROM. WHAT WAS THE DATA POINTS THAT YOU USED. SOME OF THEM ARE -- THE NUMBERS ARE ENORMOUS. >> YES. I MEAN MOST OF THE STUDIES LOOKING AT THESE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN SLEEP DEPRIVATION AND RISK BEHAVIOR HAVE TO DO WITH NOT NECESSARILY HOME ENVIRONMENT BUT SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, LOOKING AT DIFFERENCES OF RACIAL AND ETHNIC STATUS. A LOT OF THE POTENTIAL CON FOUNDING VARIABLES ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE STUDIES. DESPITE CONTROLLING FOR THOSE THEY SEE THESE RELATIONSHIPS. IF THAT HELPS WITH THE QUESTION. >> YES. THERE IS A CONSIDERING FOR OTHER THINGS. I WILL SAY, DOCTOR, I MADE THE POINT EARLIER. YOU EMPHASIZED IT. MY WIFE IS A SCHOOL TEACHER. THERE ARE KIDS FALLING A SLEEP IN THE CLASSROOM. SHE WILL ASK WHAT WERE YOU DOING LAST NIGHT? I FACE CHATTED UNTIL TWO OR THREE. THIS IS A BIG PARENTING ISSUE. I HAVE ONE IN COLLEGE, ONE IN HIGH SCHOOL. I'M SURE IN COLLEGE HE HAS HIS PHONE NOW. HE WASN'T ALLOWED TO HAVE A PHONE. WE HAD ONE AREA IN THE HALLWAY WHERE THE PHONES AND LAP TOPS WERE. THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED IN THE ROOMS. I FIND MYSELF FLIPPING THROUGH MY SMART PHONE AT NIGHT WHEN I'M READY TO GO TO BED, CATCHING UP ON E-MAILS. I KNOW IF I'M DOING IT I'M NOT GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY. >> THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT. WE SHOW THAT WITH THE PARENTS DOING IT THE KIDS ARE DOING IT. HAVING, MODELING. >> THE RULES ARE IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY THE EDUCATION COMPONENT IS SO CRITICAL. TO YOUR POINT ABOUT, STARTING PRACTICES AT 4:30 AND THEN STILL BEING ABLE TO GET THEIR -- DOES THAT MEAN THEY ARE UP TO 10:00 OR 10:30 GETTING WORK DONE. YES, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BED ANY EARLIER NOW AS IT IS. EVEN THOUGH THEY GET OUT AT 3:30. THE STUDIES SHOW WHEN THE START TIMES ARE DELAYED IF ANYTHING DOES THE SLEEP TIME GO UP BUT GOES UP BY MORE THAN THE SCHOOL START TIMES WERE DELAYS. IT DOESN'T RESULT IN A REDUCTION OF THE SLEEP. >> WHEN PEOPLE ARE SLEEP DEPRIVED THEY SACRIFICE ACCURACY. THEY GET THE RIGHT ANSWER EVENTUALLY BUT IT TAKES LONG TORE GET THERE. MEDICAL RESIDENTS ARE WELL STUDIES FOR. THAT YOU'RE EFFICIENT IN YOUR THINKING. SO, IT MAY BE THAT THREE HOURS OF HOMEWORK TAKES FOUR HOURS TO COMPLETE UNDER CONDITIONS OF CHRONIC SLEEP LOSS. I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THEY MAY BE MORE EFFICIENT STUDENTS BUT THEY'RE WELL SLEPT. >> MY LAST QUESTION IS JUST ON THE -- YOUR EXPERT IN SLEEP, GET INTO THAT WHOLE BLUE SCREEN THING, I'VE HEARD A BOUT IT. WHAT EXACTLY, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT IT A LOT, IF YOU JUST SIT ON A BENCH OUT IN THANNIAL HALL, EVERYBODY'S HEAD IS DOWN IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD. DRIVES ME CRAZY PEOPLE WALKING OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF TRAFFIC NOT PAYING ATTENTION, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SLEEP, THIS HAS BECOME LIKE -- YOU'RE ADDICTED TO IT. WE. >> WE HAVE SPECIALIZED PHOTO RECEPTORS IN THE RETINA THAT ARE NOT THE RODS AND CONES THAT DURING EVOLUTION CAME FROM WHEN -- FROM MARINE ORGANISMS, MOST SENSITIVE TO THE LIGHT THAT MARINE ORGANISMS ARE EXPOSED TO WHICH IS BLUE LIGHT, IN THE BLUE OCEANS. UNDER THE BLUE SKY. IT'S A SPECIALIZED PHOTO RECEPTOR THAT'S IN GANGLION CELLS, IT'S GOT A SPECIALIZED FILAMENT, INSTEAD OF THE RED, GREEN, BLUE CONES BUT IS ACTUALLY -- IT IS MOST SENSITIVE TO THIS 460 TO 480 THAN METERS THIS ENRICHED LIGHT. IRONICALLY THE REASON WHY THE NOBEL PRIZE WAS AWARDED COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BLUE L.E.D., BECAUSE PRIOR TO THAT WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE ONLY L.E.D.S WERE RED AND GREEN THEY WERE USED TO -- SEE IF YOUR STEREO WAS ON. BECAUSE NOBODY COULD MAKE WHITE LIGHT. ONLY THE DISCOVERY OF HOW TO MAKE A BLUE L.E.D. THAT REVOLUTIONIZED THIS, MADE IT POSSIBLE TO CREATE WHITE LIGHT FROM L.E.D.S WHICH ARE MUCH MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT. ONLY THING IS THAT IN THESE -- THAT'S WHAT'S POWERING OUR SCREENS ON OUR LAPTOPS AND CELL PHONES AND TABLETS. THAT IS DIRECTLY RESETTING THE INTERNAL CLOCK MUCH MORE EFFECTIVELY THAT WE USED TO GET FROM INCANDESCENT LIGHTS. BECAUSE IT IS SO BLUE AROUND RICH. THERE ARE THINGS -- SO, AFTER WE DID THIS -- SHOWED THAT READING FROM AN iPAD, SUPPRESSES AND MAKES IT HARDER TO GET UP IN THE MORNING, APPLE NOW COME OUT WITH SOFTWARE IN THEIR NEW iPHONES CALLED A NIGHT SHIFT, WHICH YOU CAN ENGAGE AND THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING FOR ANDROID, THAT REDUCES THE BLUE RICH LIGHT IN YOUR PHONE AFTER DUSK SO YOU CAN SET IT BETWEEN SUNSET AND SUNRISE TO DECREASE THE BLUE WAVE LENGTHS IN THOSE PHONES. AND YOU CAN ALSO SET AN APPROPRIATE INTERVAL FOR YOU -- TO REMIND YOU TO GO TO BED SO YOU CAN SET BEDTIME ALARM INSTEAD OF JUST THE WAKE TIME ALARM. >> I WILL LOOK UP THE NIGHT SHIFT PHONE APP. >> COUNCILOR -- THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. I HAD 6:00 A.M. HOCKEY GAME -- JUST COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS BECAUSE I NEED TO MOVE ON TO THE PANEL. IN JURISDICTIONS CHANGING SCHOOL START TIMES ARE THEY CHANGING YOUTH SPORT TIMES, CIVIL SERVICE EXAM TIMES, ALLOTTED OF WHAT WE DO AROUND HERE AROUND SCHOOL SCHEDULE BUT ALSO PARTICULARLY WEEKENDS WITH YOUTH SPORTS AND STANDARDIZED TESTS WHETHER IT'S THE S.A.T., CIVIL SERVICE EXAMS HERE. EVERYTHING IS FIRST THING IN THE MORNING. >> SO GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT, COUNCILOR. WE START SCHOOL LATER, HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH THE ORGANIZATION THAT RUN THE S.A.T. AND ACT EXAMS, IT IS REALLY KIND OF SILLY, BUT THESE KIDS THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE SUCH LIFE CHANGING EXAMS AT O-DARK-30 ON SATURDAY MORNING. WE'RE TRYING. >> WE ACTUALLY GOT THE COLLEGE BOARD TO GIVE US LIKE 20 YEARS OF READING EXAMS, READING COMPREHENSION EXAMS, THAT THEY WERE NO LONGER USING AND WE ADMINISTERED THEM IN VOLUNTEERS, ALL DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE DAY. AND 8:00 A.M. IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST PERFORMANCE OUT OF ALL THE STUDIES, IT'S ABOUT 20% DECREASE IN THEIR PERFORMANCE IN TERMS OF -- ALERTNESS AND PERFORMANCE. EVEN ABILITY TO REMEMBER WHAT WAS IN THE PATSAGE WAS DEGRADED. >> YOU TOUCHED ON IT, MAYBE OBSTACLE, EVERY KID IS DIFFERENT, EVERY SITUATION IS DIFFERENT. MY HOUSEHOLD MY TWO TWO OLDEST HAD THEM OUT OF BED, IF YOU CHASE THEM MAKE SURE THEY WERE GETTING SOMETHING TO EAT AND BRUSHING THEIR TEETH. MY TWO YOUNGEST, TWINS, THEY GET THEMSELVES UP, INSIST ON GETTING TO SCHOOL AN HOUR BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS THAT'S JUST THE WAY THEY'RE WIRED. YOU GO THROUGH, EYE JUST GIVE YOU EXAMPLE OF MY -- WE -- NOW FRESHMAN IN COLLEGE WITH 8:00 A.M. MONDAY MORNING STATISTICS CLASS. SO, I GUESS THE QUESTION WHEN YOU TRANSITION FROM HIGH SCHOOL TO COLLEGE, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RUDE AWAKENING IF YOU START SCHOOL MUCH LATER NOW IT'S A SINK OR SWIM ENVIRONMENT AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL YOU GET 8:00 A.M. CLASSES, YOU NOTICED ANY SORT OF ISSUES WITH HIGH SCHOOLERS NOW TRANSITIONING INTO COLLEGE AND START TIMES COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AS WELL AS PROBABLY, I AM ASSUMING, IT WAS FOR ME IN COLLEGES, LESS SLEEP TIME EARLY ON. >> THE STUDENTS, MANY OF THEM, TRY TO DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO AVOID THOSE VERY EARLY MORNING -- >> IT'S A CORE REQUIREMENT. HE WOULD HAVE -- >> SOME SCHOOLS DON'T EVEN HAVE COURSES THAT START BEFORE 9:00. BUT I THINK IT'S AGAIN, SOMETHING WE HAVE TO BEGIN TO WORK WITH COLLEGES AS WELL, WE'VE JUST CREATED, THANKS TO A GENEROUS GIFT FROM THE SNYDER FAMILY FOUNDATION, CREATED SLEEP 101 FOR COLLEGE STUDENTS WE'RE STARTING TO WORK WHO W COLLEGES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, TO TRY TO CHANGE THE START TIMES. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. SO MUCH. I GUESS A QUESTION OTHER THAN, ANY INFORMATION ABOUT -- IS THAT AFFECTING IN TERMS OF HOW LONG THE SCHOOL DAY. ONE OF THE THEORIES HAS BEEN, MOVE THE SCHOOL DAYS TO THE SAME AS WORK DAYS BUT AROUND THE SAME TIMEFRAME AS WELL AS LENGTH, ANY DATA AROUND THE LENGTH OF SCHOOL DAY. I'M NOT GOING TO BE POPULAR WITH THE STUDENTS WHO ARE IN THE ROOM WITH THAT QUESTION. >> THERE IS A HUGE EFFORT, I THINK IN THE LAST YEARS, 4 BILLION HAS BEEN SPENT ON WORK TO TRY TO EXPEND THE SCHOOL DAY. MUCH MORE WELL OILED OPERATION THAN START LATER ACTIVITIES. SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN SUGGESTING THAT THE SCHOOL DAY SHOULD BE EXPANDED ON BOTH ENDS. WE WOULD VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE WITH THE NOTION OF STARTING EARLIER. A LOT OF THE MOTIVATION FOR STARTING -- ENDING LATER BESIDES HAVING MORE TIME FOR INSTRUCTION IS ACTUALLY INTEGRATE SUPPORTING ACTIVITIES AND SO ON WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME. I REMEMBER WHEN FORMER GOVERNOR PAT FRICK CAME, EXTENDING THE SCHOOL DAY, HE WAS GETTING A LOT OF BLOW BACK FROM THE STUDENTS, I STOOD UP SAID WE SHOULD START LATER, THE WHOLE PLACE ERUPTED IN CHEERS. HE SAID, JUROR JUST TALKING TO THE CROWD I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE EXTENDED IN THE STARTING EARLIER DIRECTION. >> THE THING THAT I WOULD JUST NOTE THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST OBJECTIVES THAT WE HAVE IN BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP. WITH THE DATA THAT YOU LAID OUT IN TERMS OF ACTUAL OUTCOMES, I HAVEN'T SEEN TOO MANY OTHER LEVERS OR SWITCHES THAT HAD THAT TYPE OF EPINEPHRINE, EVEN THOUGH IT COSTS MORE NOW, IF TYPE OF -- THAT YOU WOULD SEE. ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES, I SEE ON BOTTOM HERE IT SAYS AFFECTS EARLIER CLASSES. SOME OF THE WORST TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS ARE -- THEY ARE GOING FURTHEST, THEY HAVE A TOUGHER TIME GETTING TO SCHOOLS SO THERE IS A DISPARITY THERE, ALSO A DISPARITY IN HOW FOLKS ARE DOING. I WANT TO THANK THE MASSACHUSETTS CHAPTER OF STAR SCHOOL LATER, BECAUSE YOU ALSO BRING UP THAT OTHER DISTRICTS THAT DON'T LOOK LIKE OUR DISTRICT, ARE THE ONES WHO ARE MOVING TOWARDS THIS, THAT URBAN DISTRICT ARE NOT. SO, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE GPAs, ALSO THAT THERE IS A GREAT DISPARITY THAT DISADVANTAGED KIDS DO ACTUALLY BETTER IN THE SPACE. THAT'S A GOOD DISPARITY TO HAVE ON THE TABLE. SO I WOULD JUST SAY, VERY ENCOURAGED BY THE PASSION, BUT ALSO BY THE SCIENCE AND DATA THAT GO -- THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE ORIENTED BY. WE CAN DEAL WITH THE OBSTACLES AND GOVERNMENT WE DEAL WITH AND TWEAK OBSTACLES ON REGULAR BASIS BUT OBJECTIVE SHOULD BE, LET'S DO THE SMARTEST THING FOR THE LARGEST GROUP OF YOUNG PEOPLE AND TO INSTITUTE POLICY THAT ACTUALLY HELP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. SHOW ME SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN GET 200-POINT INCREASE IN S.A.T. WE'D BE JUMPING AT IT IN A SECOND. I THINK SOMETHING AS NOTED WE WILL DEFINITELY BE PUSHING FORWARD WITH WORKING GROUPS TO ADVANCE, I BELIEVE THIS REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE. WE'RE GOING TO CALL -- THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY. I'M GO TO CALL OUR NEXT EXPERT PANEL. WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY TAKE BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME. CAN WE DO THAT? JOHN HAMLIN CHIEF OF OPERATIONS FOR BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. MONICA ROBERTS, CHIEF OF ENGAGEMENT ASSIGNMENT AND PARTNERSHIPS FOR BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. MONICA THAT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GOT -- DIDN'T GET A RAISE JUST GOT MORE TITLES, THAT'S NORMALLY HOW IT WORKS IN GOVERNMENT WHEN WE GIVE YOU MORE RESPONSIBILITY. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING. YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. YOU CAN START WITH YOUR TESTIMONY. >> JOHN, CHIEF OF OPERATIONS OF BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. >> MONICA ROBERTS ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF ENGAGEMENT FOR BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. >> I GAVE YOU DEMOTION, ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT. >> A SHORT TITLE. WE DO NOT HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION PREPARED TODAY WE WERE ASKED TO ATTEND THE HEARING IN ORDER TO SPEAK TO THIS TO DISCUSS OPTION, IS THAT BPS AND TAKE PART IN THE WORKING SESSION. I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY. AND REFERENCE SOME THOUGHTS THAT'S GOING ON IN THE DISTRICT AROUND HIGH SCHOOL START TIME CHANGES. WE'VE BEEN MIND. OF THIS DISCUSSION OVER THE LAST YEAR-PLUS, SEEN SOME OF THE PRESENTATION NOT JUST TODAY BUT I THANK THE PANEL FOR COMING AND SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS BUT ALSO PRESENTATIONS THAT SOME OF THEM INCLUDING DR. OWENS DID LAST YEAR. OPEN TO THOUGHTS OR SUGGESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE TO BRING TO THE WORKING SESSION. >> FIRST, HAVE YOU DONE ANY FINANCIAL ANALYSIS ON ANY OF THE POTENTIAL -- ONE OF THE THINGS I DISAGREED WITH IS THE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT BUT WE DO NOT HAVE A BUS FOR 7th -- FOR 8th GRADERS. THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU SEE POTENTIAL FINANCIAL IMPACT ON MAKING THIS. >> UNCLEAR YET AS TO WHAT THAT FINANCIAL IMPACT MIGHT BE. IT'S NOT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT WE DON'T PROVIDE BUSING FOR ANY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT AS WELL AND COUNCILOR ROB POINTED OUT BEFORE THAT, OUR LARGE MAJORITY ARE RECEIVING BUS SERVICE, IN FACT HIGH SCHOOLS ACROSS THE DISTRICT, THERE ARE 576 TRIPS A DAY THAT'S COMBINED BETWEEN A.M. AND P.M. IT'S MORE SIGNIFICANT PEOPLE WOULD THINK EVEN THOUGH BY AND LARGE THE VAST MAJORITY OF HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE TRANSPORTED. >> COUNCILOR? I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, JOHN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MONICA, AS WELL. SORT OF IN GENERAL ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES AS A CITY, AS A DEPARTMENT IS THAT WE HESITATE TO DO IT FOR SO LONG. IT WOULD BE DRAMATIC CHANGE, EMOTIONAL CHANGE AS WELL AS LOGISTICAL CHANGE. IF YOU CAN SHARE WITH US SOME OF OUR INITIAL THOUGHTS, I UNDERSTAND IT'S INITIAL, ABOUT WHAT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO TRANSPORTATION. >> CERTAINLY TRANSPORTATION IS PART OF IT OF SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. ALSO IN TALKS WITH ATHLETICS DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT A BELL-TIME CHANGE OF HIGH SCHOOLS WOULDN'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE HIGH SCHOOLS' SPORTS SCHEDULE. WE NEED TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT ANY ILL AFFECT. THINGS OF THAT NATURE. ALL THESE THINGS ARE ITEMS THAT WERE EXPLORING RIGHT NOW WHILE ALSO WEIGHING THE SEEMINGLY POSITIVE EVIDENCE THAT THE PANEL YOU PRESENTED LATER START TIME BEING GOOD FOR STUDENT HEALTH AND WELLNESS. ALSO POTENTIALLY EVEN SCHOOL PERFORMANCE. >> I IMAGINE MASH MASH MONICA, JUMP IN. NEED TO BE SOME COLLABORATION WITH THE T BECAUSE MOST OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, THEY USE MBTA TO GET TO AND FROM SCHOOL WHAT SORT OF IMPACT ON THAT T SYSTEM WE H WE KNOW IS UNDER INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF PRESSURE AS IT IS. >> RIGHT. COUNCILOR O'MALLEY MADE THIS POINT EARLIER ON, I BELIEVE, ONE THING THAT WOULD BE A BIT OF CONCERN IF WE WERE TO MOVE HIGH SCHOOL STARTS TO 8:30, WHICH IS ALREADY THE HEAVIEST TIER, SO TO SPEAK WITH REGARD TO NUMBER OF SCHOOLS, IF WE MOVED TO 8:30 MANY OF THOSE STUDENTS TAKING THE T ARE RIGHT INTO THE BUSIEST TIME PERIOD FOR MBTA WE WOULD NEED TO TALK TO THE T ABOUT WHAT IMPLICATIONS THAT MIGHT BE FOR THEM. >> DO WE KNOW WHAT THE AVERAGE COMMUTE TIME IS FOR OUR STUDENTS AS IT IS RIGHT NOW? >> NOT SOMETHING THAT I KNOW. WE COULD FIND OUT. >> I THINK IT VARIES. WE HAVE STUDENTS THAT MAY BE COMING -- THEY IT WIDELY VARIES. >> I THINK THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING INFORMATION SORT OF THE AVERAGE LENGTH THEN MAIN SAMPLING OF SOME OF THE LONGEST LENGTHS OF TIME THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE TRAVELING TO GET FROM HOME TO SCHOOL EVERY DAY. >> JUST WANT TO JUMP IN, THE DATA ANALYSIS WHEN FROM WAS A VOTE, WHEN WE TOOK UP 6th, 7th, 8th GRADE TRANSPORTATION THERE WAS ANALYSIS ON THE RECORD AROUND THE DISTANCE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE TRAVEL. THE ROUTES THAT THEY TAKE AND THE PEAK TIME AND EVEN WHETHER OR NOT THE BUSES WERE GOING TO BE FULL. A GREAT DEAL OF ROBUST INFORMATION IN THAT SPACE FOR YOU. THAT WAS COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BUT I'M SURE THAT WOULD BE GREAT PLACE TO START. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU BETH FOR BEING HERE TODAY I DO THINK IT WAS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO BE HERE THE PROFESSIONALS SPOKE TO US, SO THANK YOU. >> COUNCILOR O'MALLEY? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONED THE BILL RICHARDS ALMANAC, EARLY TO BED, EARLY TO RISE, MAKES A MAN HEALTHY, WEALTHY AND WISE. IT WAS COINED BY BENJAMIN FRANKLIN WHO DROPPED OUT OF THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS PERHAPS BECAUSE IT STARTED TOO EARLY. SORRY, COUNCILOR LEFT. IT'S OFTEN HARD TO DO THINGS IN THIS BUILDING, SO, THIS WILL BE AN ADJUSTMENT BUT AGAIN I THINK THAT THERE IS CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS WORTH OUR UNDERTAKING. HOW MANY -- I HAVE THE NUMBERS SOMEWHERE, HOW MANY DIFFERENT START TIMES FOR THE HIGH SCHOOLS? >> I BELIEVE THERE ARE LIKE 12. ALMOST -- SOME START BEFORE 7:30. EARLY START TIME IS MAJORITY OF OUR SCHOOLS. >> HOW MANY I'LL SCHOOLS ARE THERE? >> 37 TOTAL THAT GO UP TO THE 12th GRADE THAT INCLUDES ALL PROGRAMS INCLUDING ALTERNATIVE. >> FAIR ENOUGH. 12 DIFFERENT. AT A MINIMUM WHAT WOULD BE THE -- THE EARLIEST IS 7:20. HALF START BEFORE 7:30. LATEST IS -- >> 9:30. TO CHANGE THEM ALL TO -- I'LL LET JOHN TALK ABOUT OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT FROM THE ENGAGEMENT OF FAMILIES WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT. ARE THEY REALLY EDUCATING -- THE NEED, CRITICAL PART OF THE STOP SPOT. >> WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN FOR EVERY HIGH SCHOOL TO START AT 8:30? >> THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT MUCH THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN IN ORDER TO DO IT. WE HAVE TO ASSESS WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT WOULD BE IF IT WOULD BE MORE COST -- IF WE WERE TO MOVE TO 8:30 FOR ALL SCHOOLS. I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILOR, MAKE IT MORE UNIFORM ACROSS THE DISTRICT FOR ALL SCHOOLS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. ONE THING THAT I THINK IS WORTH NOTING THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE MIGHT BE 12 DIFFERENT START TIMES FOR HIGH SCHOOLS, THE DAY LENGTHS VARY A LITTLE BIT AS WELL. MANY OF THE SCHOOLS ARE WITHIN VERY SMALL RANGE OF TIMES. JUST BETWEEN SAY 7:IS 15 AND 7:30 ALONE YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT OR FOUR DIFFERENT START TIMES THAT -- HALF OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS THAT'S ALL WITHIN COMPRESSED TIME PERIOD. MAKING START TIME MORE UNIFORM IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DESIROUS OF, BUT NOT NECESSARILY BE ALL, END ALL IF THOSE VARIATIONS IN START TIME ARE SLIGHT, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING. ASSESS FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THAT I BELIEVE THEN PUT SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL COMMITTEE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS MOVE WOULD BE VOTED ON OR AGREED TO. SOCIALIZE THOSE SCHOOL LEADERS IN PARTICULAR, THEN HAVE TO BUILD OUT THE BUS ROUTE WITH THOSE NEW TIMES IN MIND SO THAT ALL BUSES ARE GOING AT THE RIGHT TIMES, ALL THE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN ON THOSE BUSES ARE NOTIFIED OF THESE TIME CHANGES. THOSE ARE THE MAJOR OPERATIONAL THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO UN UNFOLD. >> COULD THIS CONCEIVABLY BE IN THE 2017-2018 SCHOOL YEAR? >> IT COULD. THAT WOULD BE AMBITIOUS. THAT WOULD ALLOW ENOUGH TIME. >> THE EARLIEST START IS 7:20, WHAT TIME WOULD THAT SCHOOL DAY END APPROXIMATELY. I KNOW THERE WOULD BE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS HAVE DIFFERENT LENGTHS OF DAY. 1:30 END TIME? >> 1:40. THEN 9:30 A.M. START TIME. 3:30 IN THE AFTERNOON. >> ABOUT, YES. WHAT'S THE 9:30 SCHOOL START TIME? >> THE START TIME OR -- WHICH SCHOOL -- WHICH SCHOOLS START AT CONTRACT 30. >> ONE OF OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION SCHOOLS. THE OTHER THING I WOULD WANT TO ADD THINK ABOUT SOME OF OUR STUDENTS WHO GO TO EVENING ACADEMY WHICH PROVIDES SUPPORT FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO -- THEY HAVE CHILDREN OR OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT AS WELL. >> I WOULDN'T SUGGEST THAT WE CHANGE BOSTON EVENING ACADEMY OR OTHER ALTERNATIVE HIGH SCHOOL. BUT SORT OF THE MAJORITY OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. WE NEED TO ASSESS WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT WOULD BE. WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE THREE LEGS OF THE SCHOOL, TRANSPORTATION, ATHLETICS -- AFTER SCHOOL ATHLETICS, YOUTH EMPLOYMENT, CLUBS, CONDUCT AGGRESSIVE OUTREACH TO SCHOOL LEADERS AND PARENTS. IN YOUR OPINION IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T PURSUE THIS? >> IT'S HARD TO SAY RIGHT NOW WITHOUT HAVING ALL THE DATA ALL THE OTHER -- >> I DON'T NEED TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT FOR ME I GUESS THIS IS SOMETHING WORTHWHILE. AGAIN -- WHAT ABOUT AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITIES. I DON'T SEE THAT -- AFTER SCHOOL, I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING IMPACTED AS MANY PEOPLE MAY HAVE -- THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT ALL AT THE SAME TIME PROVIDING SUPPORTS FOR OUR KIDS BY GIVING THEM THAT LATER START TIME. I THINK DATA SPEAKS TO ITSELF. SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO GET BEHIND IN MY OPINION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIR. >> IF I MIGHT. JUST DETERMINE SOMETHING BRIEFLY. WHAT WE'D BE EXPLORING WOULDN'T NECESSARILY STICK WITH WHERE WE'RE AT OR MOVING ONLY TO 8:00 A.M. OR EXPLORING ALL POTENTIAL START TIME OPTION. WHAT WOULD THE 9:30 START TIME LOOK LIKE. CONTINUE TO LOOK LIKE IF THEY WERE -- >> EXPLORING ALL OPTIONS THERE. COUNCILOR LaMATTINA. I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE PROFESSIONALS REALLY WE SHOULD DO LATER TIMES. BUT THE FINANCIAL COST, DO WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THIS WITH THE UNION? >> WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THE START TIMES. HAVE TO PAY TEACHERS MORE MONEY. THE SUPERINTENDENT? >> I DO BELIEVE INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS WOULD HAVE A ROLE IN THE CHANGING OF THE SCHOOL'S TIME. I ALSO THINK THAT FACULTY SENATE MAY ALSO PLAY A ROLE. >> I'M SORRY. TALKING TO THE OPERATIONS CHIEF, I WAS THINKING ABOUT OPERATIONS UNION, I CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE BOSTON TEACHERS UNION, IT WOULD BE CHANGE IN WORKING CONDITIONS FOR TEACHERS I WOULD IMAGINE THAT MAY REQUIRE NEGOTIATIONS, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. >> MY ONLY CASE WOULD BE IN TERMS OF CLOSING THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP WHICH IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY ISSUES, ARE THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE KNOW OF THAT KNIFE OUT OF SIX SCHOOLS SHOWED SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN GPA, IN ENGLISH, MATH, SCIENCE, SOCIAL STUDIES, DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS. OR ADD 200 POINTS TO S.A.T.s, ANY OTHER -- IF THERE ARE I WANT TO CONSIDER THOSE. THE COMPELLING DATA HERE IS THAT THIS IS TRANSFORMATIVE. IN PARTICULAR IN A PLACE WHERE ACHIEVEMENT GAP IS REAL, ALL URBAN DISTRICTS, SOUNDS LIKE URBAN DISTRICTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LESS LIKELY TO DO THIS. I WOULD JUST PUSH THAT WE LEAD AND NOT FOLLOW IN THIS SPACE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME REALLY TRANSFORMATIVE THINGS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO NEED IT. I APPRECIATE COUNCILOR O'MALLEY'S URGENCY, JUST AS DOCTOR SAID YOU CAN'T GO BACK CATCH UP ON SLEEP, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. WE CAN'T CATCH UP ON PERSON'S EDUCATION. I THINK IT'S SO CRITICAL THAT WE FRONT LOAD THIS LITERALLY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. YES, WE HAVE, YOU DO AN AMAZING JOB WITH THE ENGAGEMENT PIECE. WE CAN DO THIS. WE HAD CONVERSATION, AROUND TRANSPORTATION. THIS IS THE QUALITY OUT OF IT. THIS IS NOT ONLY -- IT'S A QUALITY PERFORMANCE CHANGE, ALSO HAS POSITIVE OUTCOMES RELATIVE TO WELLNESS FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE. I THINK WE ARE AS THE DOCTOR NOTED EARLIERF WE DO NOTHING THEN WE'RE DOING -- THIS IS ONE FEW THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN IN EDUCATION, IT SEEMS TO ME TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO STUDY LESS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE DATA HERE AND MOVE FASTER THAT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THE YOUNG PEOPLE FOR NEXT YEAR'S GRADUATING CLASS NEED 200 POINT INJECTION, I NEEDED A 200 POINT INJECTION IN MY S.A.T.s WHICH WE COULD GO BACK ON ALSO. I THINK WE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER, ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THIS, THAT'S THE BEST AND LATEST AND GREATEST, IT SOUNDS AS IF THE EXPERTS AS WELL AS PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE IT LIKE, COUNCILOR ESSAIBI GEORGE HAS BEEN IN THE CLASSROOM. FROM A PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVE OF SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE LIVES IN PARTS OF THE CITY THAT DON'T HAVE THE BEST WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION BEING ABLE TO GET TO SCHOOL, REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR LAST -- I THINK ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT, NO DISREGARD TO THE FOLKS AT BPS AND DOCTORS BUT WE HAVE ABSOLUTE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS WHO ARE GOING TO COME BEFORE US, WE HAVE STUDENTS. WE HAVE EDWARD TAPIA WHO IS ALTERNATIVE STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BPS SCHOOL COMMITTEE. HE'S A JUNIOR AT AND LESLIE CURRENTLY A FRESHMAN AND CHEERLEADER AT BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY. WE'D LIKE YOU TO COME FORWARD. I DO HAVE TO BRAG A LITTLE BIT ON BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY RIGHT NOW WE ACTUALLY JUST GOT TO GO THERE AND CONGRATULATIONS, BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY IS NUMBER ONE SCHOOL IN THE STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS FOR COLLEGE ACCEPTANCE RATES. REALLY GREAT THINGS HAPPENING THERE, VERY PROUD OF WHAT HAPPENED THERE, ALSO THE COFOUNDER OF, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE THERE THAT DAY, COFOUNDER OF AIR BNB. AND EXCEL, I HEARD YOU HAVE REALLY GREAT PARTNERSHIP AROUND SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING AND MATH WE WILL PROBABLY WORKING FOR YOU SOME DAY VERY SOON. WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR TESTIMONY. IF YOU CAN INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. >> HOME LOW, CITY COUNCILORS, MY NAME IS EDWARD, I AM JUNIOR AT EXCEL HIGH SCHOOL. I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF BOSTON STUDENT ADVISORY COUNCIL AND STUDENT -- STUDENT AT REPRESENTATIVE FOR BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT BENEFITS AND CHALLENGES OF -- >> YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT BENEFITS AND CHALLENGES OF A LATER SCHOOL START TIME FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE STUDENTS. IN FAVOR OF LATER START TIME FOR STUDENTS. CURRENTLY STUDENTS HAVE TO WAKE UP IN THE DARK, DON'T HAVE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES. OFTEN FEEL TIRED AFTER STARTING THE DAY. BPS HAS ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT WAKING UP AT EARLY HOURS HARMFUL FOR STUDENT MINDS AND BODIES THAT ARE STILL DEVELOPING. IT'S FRUSTRATING THAT THEY CHOOSE TO IGNORE THIS FACT. WITH ADULTS THEY START WORK AT 9:00 WHERE STUDENTS HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR TWO HOURS BY THEN. WHY DO WE REQUIRE STUDENTS TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT EXPECTED OF ADULTS, WITH THAT SAID, WE ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERNS. WE KNOW THAT A LATER SCHOOL START TIME MEANS LATER END TIME. THIS WOULD MAKE IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR STUDENTS TO HOLD JOBS THAT THEY NEED TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. TO BE INVOLVED IN EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES LIKE SPORTS, AND FINISH HOMEWORK IN TIME TO GET SOME SLEEP. ANOTHER ISSUE IS TRAFFIC. A LOT OF STUDENTS ALREADY HAVE LONG COMMUTE, IF WE HAVE LATER START TIME THEIR COMMUTE WOULD BE DURING RUSH HOUR MAKING IT EVEN LONGER, HOW WOULD YOU AVOID THIS SCENARIO? AND FINALLY, WE'VE BEEN TOLD, SCHOOLS WOULD START WITHIN AN HOUR OF EACH OTHER DOES THAT MEAN THAT SCHOOLS WILL ALSO END WITHIN AN HOUR OF EACH OTHER. >> THANK YOU. LESLIE? >> HELLO, MY NAME IS LESS SEE, I AM STUDENT AT BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY I PERSONALLY OPPOSE STARTING LATER DUE TO THE FACT THAT I AM A CHEERLEADER SO AFTER SCHOOL I GO STRAIGHT TO CHEERLEADING, AND I LIVE IN ALSON GOING TO DORCHESTER TAKES ABOUT 45 MINUTES EVERY DAY SO ON NORMAL DAY I WAKE UP AT 5:00, LEAVE HOUSE BY 6:00, CATCH THE BUS WHICH IF I MISS IT LUCKILY STILL GET TO SCHOOL BY 6:20 WHERE THE BELL STARTS. WE END AT 1:40 WHICH IS REALLY CONVENIENT BECAUSE STUDENTS DO WORK OR DO EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, CHEERLEADERS GO FROM 2:15 TO 4:15 WHILE FOOTBALL PLAYERS GO FROM 2:15 TO 5:30 STILL HAVE HOMEWORK TO DO. I FEEL THAT TRANSPORTATION IF WE ALL START LATER, KNOWING THAT RUSH HOUR STARTS AT A CERTAIN HOUR, STUDENTS AND ADULTS WOULD BE BUMPING INTO EACH OTHER. TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT ELEMENTARY STUDENTS START AT 8:30 AND GO LATER. THEN STARTING LATER, SOME PARENTS HAVE TO SAY THAT WE ARE LEAVING OUR HOUSE TOO EARLY WHICH IS LIKE GOING INTO THE DARKF WE START LATER WE'LL BE BACK AT POINT ZERO WHERE WE'RE COMING HOME IN THE DARK PARENTS ARE AFRAID THAT SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN TO US, I THINK THIS EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITY IF WE GO LATER FROM AROUND 3:30 I'M STILL GOING TO GET AROUND 6:00 OR 7:30 NOT ABLE TO DO HOMEWORK, PUSHING BACK MY SLEEP, WAKING UP AT 5:00. THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, LESLIE IS INTERN IN MY OFFICE. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM BOTH OF YOU IF YOU WOULD JUST SHARE FEW COMMENTS, FEW SENTENCES ABOUT SORT OF YOUR SLEEP HABITS. WHAT TIME DO YOU TO GO BED, ARE YOU BRINGING THE PHONE WITH YOU, WHEN ARE YOU FALLING ASLEEP AS OPPOSED TO GOING TO BED. YOU CAN EVEN REFERENCE, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOURSELF BUT YOUR FRIENDS. >> BY THE TIME I GET HOME FROM ANYTHING, ANY OTHER ACTIVITY, EVENT THAT I HAVE DURING THE DA DAY, IT'S PROBABLY BY 8:00 P.M. I HAVE DINNER, TAKE A SHOWER LIKE EVERYONE AND START HOMEWORK AROUND 9:00. THIS YEAR I HAVE AN AP GOVERNMENT CLASS. THAT CLASS USUALLY TAKES TWO HOURS ALMOST THREE OF HOMEWORK. THEN I HAVE MY USUAL HOMEWORK, ALSO TAKES ABOUT TWO HOURS. THAT'S FIVEF I DO THE MATH, END UP GOING TO BED AROUND 2:00 A.M. ALMOST. >> WHAT TIME ARE YOU UP? TO GET READY TO GO TO SCHOOL. >> I GET UP AT 5:30. I'LL BE LUCKY IF I GET TO SLEEP FIVE HOURS. >> I GET HOME ON DAILY BASIS AROUND 6:00. GIVES ME AN HOUR TO TAKE A NAP OR JUST CHILL, MENTALLY PREPARE MYSELF FOR HOMEWORK. I THINK WE ARE KNOWN FOR THE AMOUNT OF HOMEWORK, FLUCTUATES FROM TWO TO FIVE HOURS HOMEWORK KNOWING THAT I HAVE THREE HONOR CLASSES IN ONE DAY. ON TOP OF GETTING HOME MENTALLY PREPARING MYSELF FOR ANOTHER DAY. I THINK BY THE TIME THAT I'M DONE I GIVE MYSELF AN HOUR, BY THE TIME I'M IN BED BY 10:00, WATCH TV OR GOSSIP AROUND BY THAT TIME I'M READY TO PREPARE MYSELF IS 10:30, LIGHTS OUT I'M ASLEEP BY 11:00. THEN I WAKE UP AT 5:30. >> THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILOR O'MALLEY? >> THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. I WAS YOUR AGE WHEN I FIRST TESTIFIED IN THIS CHAMBER IN THOSE VERY SEATS ON EDUCATION MATTER WAY BACK IN THE MID 1990s LONG BEFORE YOU GUYS WERE BORN. I LOOK FORWARD TO SEE YOU ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE SOME DAY. IT'S NOT EASY, WE APPRECIATE IT. I'M INTRIGUED BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD AS I SAID FOR MANY PARENTS I'VE HEARD FROM THIS -- YOUNG ADULTS AS WELL WHO SEEM TO REALLY SUPPORT THIS IDEA. I THINK YOU BOTH ARTICULATED HOW HECTIC THE LIFE OF AN INVOLVED STUDENT CAN BE. DO EITHER OF YOU WORK AT PCAC YOU HAVE PART TIME JOB AS WELL. SOME OF THOSE DAYS, THAT'S GREAT. YOU GET TO BED AROUND 10:30 SOME DAYS IT'S LATER I HOPE TO GOSH SOME OF THOSE 2:30 DAYS YOU GET EARLIER NIGHTS. DO YOU FEEL AS THOUGH -- BLA STARTS WHAT TIME? >> 7 OR 7:30 GET OUT AT 1:40 THAT GIVES YOU ENOUGH TIME CHEERLEADING STARTS AROUND 2:30 A LITTLE BIT OF BREAK TO GET OVER, WHAT TIME DOES HE CAN SELL START? >> EXCEL STARTS AT 7:00 25. GETS OUT AROUND SAME TIME 1:45 OR SO. IF WE WERE TO GO FOR -- AGAIN I THINK 8:30 WHICH WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT MY THAT COULD CHANGE. IT'S A HALF HOUR DELAY SO 8 A.M. START FOR YOUR SCHOOL WOULD PUSH THINGS BACK DO YOU FEEL THAT WINDOW BETWEEN WHERE LAST YEAR DISMISSAL BELL AND YOUR CHEERLEADING OR AFTER-SCHOOL WORK THAT YOU NEED THAT TIME YOU COULDN'T ADJUST THAT A LITTLE BIT SO THAT YOU COULD HAVE LATER START TIME WHILE KEEPING YOUR SCHEDULE? >> I BELIEVE THAT IF WE PUSH BACK THE TIME AN HOUR LIKE 8:30, THAT SUBJECTLY WHEN THERE'S LOT OF TRAFFIC AROUND DORCHESTER OR I DON'T KNOW SOUTH END. >> YOUR CONCERN MORE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF LATER START TIME. BE MORE STRESSED. >> I BELIEVE THAT AS STUDENT WE CAN MANAGE OUR TIME BETTER, LIKE FOCUS OF GETTING MORE SLEEP AS POSSIBLE. IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE EASIER FOR US IF WE HAD LATER START TIME. AT THE SAME TIME, I AM LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT BOSTON TRAFFIC IS NOT THE NICEST MOST WELCOMING. DURING RUSH HOUR TO GET TO SCHOOL REGARDLESS OF MBTA OR IF YOUR PARENTS ARE TAKING YOU OR IF YOU'RE IN ONE OF THE SCHOOL BUSES, YOU MIGHT HAVE LIKE 30 MINUTE DELAY JUST BECAUSE OF RUSH HOUR WHICH EXTENDS THAT TIME, THAT COMMUTE THAT YOU TAKE FROM GETTING HOME TO SCHOOL. AND ALSO COMING OUT OF SCHOOL LATER, IF WE COME OUT AT 2:45 IT'S ALMOST RUSH HOUR FOR AFTERNOON WHICH ALSO EXTENDS THAT TIME THAT WE GET FROM SCHOOL LET'S SAY TO WORK OR TO SOME ACTIVITY OR HOME. IT FLUCTUATES WITH TRAFFIC BUT ALSO THINK THAT IF WE HAVE SHUTTLE BUSES THAT TAKES US FROM THE NEAREST STATION WHERE YOU LIVE THEN THAT TIME PERIOD, THAT COMMUTE COULD BE SHORTENED BY SOME EXTENT. >> WHERE DO YOU LIVE? I LIVE IN SOUTH END. EXCEL IS IN SOUTH -- I LIVE LIKE 20 MINUTE WALK. DO YOU TYPICALLY WALK? I TYPICALLY WALK IF I TAKE THE BUS IT WILL BE ABOUT 40 MINUTES. >> AND A HUNDRED PEOPLE WAITING FOR THE BUS. HOW DO YOU GET FROM -- >> DO YOU DO YOU GET? I TAKE THE 56, THE 2. THE SCHOOL DOES PROVIDE SHUTTLE BUS, IT'S NOT RELIABLE AT ALL. I FEEL LIKE EVERY DAY WHEN I TEXT MY FRIENDS, IT'S EITHER LATE, COMES EARLY, I MISS IT OR JUST NOT GOING TO SHOW UP. >> IS IT DIRECT TO THE FRONT DOOR. IF YOU TAKE SHUTTLE BUS. >> IF I TAKE SHUTTLE BUS GIVES ME 30 EXTRA MINUTES TO SLEEP THEN THE BUS WILL BE THERE BY 7: 7:20. 6:20, SORRY. GIVES ME MORE TIME TO READ ALL THE BOOKS, HOMEWORK, STILL NOT WORRY ABOUT TAKING THE SHUTTLE OR FREEZING IN THE WINTER KNOWING HOW IT IS. SHUTTLE BUSES ARE MORE CONVENIENT LOOKING AT LATER START TIME. >> EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN INCONSISTENT. >> DID YOU DON'T TAKE SHUTTLE BUS THEN SWITCH. THANK YOU BOTH. >> IS THAT A T BUS OR -- MBTA. SPECIFIC TO LATIN ACADEMY. >> I WENT TO BOSTON TECH WE DIDN'T GET A SPECIAL BUS. >> THANK YOU, BOTH, FOR SHARING TODAY. I KNOW, EDWARD, YOU'VE BEEN DOING SO MUCH WORK, I'VE WITNESSED SINCE COMING ON THE COUNCIL AND LESLIE, HAPPY TO HAVE YOU IN OUR OFFICE THANK YOU FOR TESTIFYING TODAY EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN DIFFERING OPINION THAN I HAVE, I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO START WITH PUBLIC TESTIMONY. AGAIN PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO JUST A FEW MINUTES WE'LL START WITH DEB PUTNAM. YOU CAN COME DOWN TO THIS PODIUM HERE THAT WOULD BE GREAT, THEN CELIA WILL BE NEXT. IT'S EMPTY IN HERE NOW. >> THAT'S OKAY VIEWERS AT HOME WILL APPRECIATE YOUR TESTIMONY. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, THANK YOU COUNCILORS O'MALLEY, ESSAIBI GEORGE FOR SPONSORING THIS. THANK YOU ALL THE OTHER COUNCILOR FOR LISTENING ON THE VIDEO THAT YOU'RE NOT HERE RIGHT NOW, APPRECIATE IT. MY NAME IS DEB PUTNAM I'M PARENT OF TWO BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOL. THE START TIMES OF MY HIGH SCHOOLERS ARE 7:20 A.M. AND 7:30 A.M. AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, IN FACT 50% OF BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS, HIGH SCHOOLS START BEFORE 7:30 REAR TO MEDICAL RECOMMENDATIONS YOU'VE HEARD HERE TODAY. THESE START TIMES ARE DETRIMENTAL TO BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS FAMILIES ACROSS THE CITY. THE BOSTON CHAPTER LEADER START SCHOOL LATER WE STARTED WHEN PARENTS CAME TOGETHER IN 2014 IN RESPONSE TO OUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH FAMILY SLEEP DEBT AND GALVANIZED BY THE PLETHORA OF MEDICAL AND EDUCATIONAL DATA ON BENEFITS OF LATER SCHOOL STARTS. WE CURRENTLY HAVE OVER 100 SUPPORTIVE PARENTS ON E-MAIL LISTS AND THROUGH FACEBOOK. WE KNOW THERE ARE MANY MORE. I HAVE SPOKEN IN PARTICULAR WITH PARENTS OF CHILDREN WITH CHRONIC MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS, CONDITIONS THAT ARE GREATLY EXACERBATED WITH LACK OF SLEEP. SINCE FORMING OUR GROUP WE HAVE CONDUCTED EDUCATION AND DISCOVERY PRIMARILY AT BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT STUDENTS, PARENTS, TEACHERS, ADMINISTRATORS THINK ABOUT SLEEP AND SCHOOL START TIMES AND NETWORK WITH OTHER BOSTON PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOLS, WE TALKED WITH MANY PARENTS, SCHOOL LEADERS, HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, TEACHERS, STUDENTS, BPS WELLNESS, BPS ATHLETICS AND BTU ALL OF WHOM ARE SUPPORTER OF LATER SCHOOL START TIMES. WE'VE ALSO SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL MEDIA OUTLETS, WGBH, FOX, WCVB, COMMUNITY NEWS, SHARED OUR EFFORTS WITH INTERESTED COLLEGE AND GRADUATE STUDENTS ONE OF WHOM IS HERE TONIGHT, I BELIEVE. VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WITH WHOM WE SPEAK BELIEVE IN RESEARCH, SUPPORT THIS EFFORT AND WANT TO KNOW WHEN BPS IS GOING TO MAKE THE CHANGE. I'LL SHARE WITH YOU A BIT OF DATA THAT THAT SHOWS STEEP STATUS OF BLA STUDENTS. THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW, NOT MANY PEOPLE LEFT, BUT BLA ONE OF THE MOST DIVERSE HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE CITY AND 61% OF STUDENTS QUALIFY FOR FREE OR REDUCED LUNCH. THIS SURVEY WAS CONDUCTED IN SPRING 2015 IN HOME ROOMS WITH iPADS, WITH 82% RESPONSE RATE. ALMOST ALL THE KIDS RESPONDED. THE SURVEY SHOWED THAT 40% OF STUDENTS WAKE UP AT OR BEFORE 5:30 A.M. 10th GRADERS. 44% OF STUDENTS GET 7 HOURS OR LESS OF SLEEP A NIGHT. 39% GET SIX HOURS OF SLEEP OR LESS A NIGHT. LESS THAN 4% GET EIGHT HOURS OR MORE SLEEP A NIGHT. YOU'VE HEARD RECOMMENDATION EARLIER ABOUT AMOUNT OF SLEEP THAT YOUNG PEOPLE SHOULD BE GET CAN CAN. AS YOU CAN SEE BOTH SLEEP QUALITY AND QUANTITY IS COMPROMISED IMPACTING ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT AND HEALTH. IN SEPARATE SURVEYS, 50% OF BLA STAFF AND 78% OF PARENTS WANT A LATER START TIME. THIS DEMONSTRATES PARENTS, STUDENTS AND TEACHESSER ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE CURRENT START TIME SO INSTEAD OF THINKING AS CHANGE EFFORT LIKE WHAT COULD BE POSSIBLE, FOLKS SHOULD KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE CURRENT START TIME. WE'VE ENCOUNTERED VERY FEW TEACHERS WHO DISAGREE, THEY BELIEVE THE RESEARCH AS I THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED BEFORE. MOST TEACHERS, HIGH SCHOOL TEACHERS KNOW NOT TO GIVE TEST THE FIRST PERIOD OF THE DAY. WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH PARENTS WHO DISAGREE, SOME OF WHOM MAY BE HERE TODAY, MANY PARENTS THINKING ABOUT A CHANGE AS ANOTHER COMPLICATION TO ALREADY BUSY EARLY MORNING OR AFTERNOON ROUTINE. BUT AS WE TRANSFER CAR SEATS FROM CAR TO CAR IN THE POURING RAIN, BROUGHT OUR UNHAPPY CHILD TO BE IMMUNIZED OR TIGHTENED THE STRAP OF BICYCLE I WILL HET WE CAN DO THIS, TOO. WE KNOW THAT LOW INCOME FAMILIES AND FAMILIES DISPROPORTIONATELY BEAR THE BURDEN. SUCH AS ACTION CITIES HEALTHY FOODS, OPEN GREEN SPACES, QUALITY TRANSPORTATION, AIR QUALITY. THE SAME IS TRUE FOR SLEEP AS YOU'VE HEARD EARLIER. EQUITY ASSESSMENT MUST BE CONDUCTED TO IDENTIFY THE IMPACT OF START TIMES ON BOSTON'S MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS. OUR BLA SURVEY FOUND THAT 36% OF 10th GRADE STUDENTS HELD AN AFTER SCHOOL JOB. JUST SPEAK TO THAT AFTER SCHOOL EMPLOYMENT NEED. BUT WE ASKED WHEN THE START TIME WAS OF THE JOB, 82% IT WAS 4:00 P.M. OR LATER. IF OUR SCHOOL ENDED AN HOUR LATER WHICH WOULD BE 2:20 P.M., THOSE STUDENTS WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR START TIME OF THEIR SCHOOL. SHOWS THAT COMMONLY ASSUMED BARRIER, THAT ABOUT SCHOOL JOBS MAY NOT BE SO SIGNIFICANT. CITY OF SEATTLE A GREAT EQUITY ASSESSMENT THAT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE. SINNER WORK OVER PAST TWO YEARS WE HAVE NOT FOUND BPS DISTRICT LEADERS, ALL DO RESPECT, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE HERE -- ONE IS HERE. COMMITTED TO THIS ISSUE, THIS IS REALLY SURPRISING FOR A DISTRICT THAT'S COMMITTED TO ACHIEVEMENT GAPS LESSENING THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP. WE DID HEAR THAT THERE WAS A SMALL GROUP OF HIGH LEVEL ADMINISTRATORS WHO MET ONCE EARLY THIS YEAR AND DECIDED THAT LATER SCHOOL START TIMES COULD NOT BE PURSUED. WE ASKED WHY THERE WAS NO RATIONAL PROVIDED. WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THERE ARE WORKING GROUPS IN CONVERSATION, THAT IS TOTALLY NEWS TO US, AGAIN WE HAVE THIS NETWORK OF GREAT PARENTS WE'RE INTERESTED IN ENGAGEMENT. WE ASK YOU THE CITY COUNCIL, TO ENACT A RESOLUTION REQUIRING BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDED SCHOOL START TIME OF 8:30 OR LATER FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. WE ASK YOU TO MAKE SURE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT IS PART OF THIS EFFORT. WE ALSO REQUEST THAT SCHOOLS THAT WANT TO ADOPT A LATER SCHOOL START TIME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE BE SUPPORTED TO DO SO. I BELIEVE BLA ONE SUCH SCHOOL. THERE ARE TONS OF RESOURCES THAT HELP THE CITY MOVE FORWARD AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE MASSACHUSETTS START SCHOOL LATER NETWORK IS PART OF THAT, CITY OF SEATTLE CONDUCTED EQUITY ANALYSIS, THAT IS ONLINE. DOCUMENT CALLED THE BLUEPRINT FOR CHANGE WHICH OUTLINES THIS VERY CLEARLY AND MANY MORE. THANKS VERY MUCH FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN YOUR WORKING GROUPS. >> THANK YOU, CELIA. THEN WE'LL HAVE TIM. AND JEFFREY COOK. >> GOOD AFTERNOON THANK YOU FOR SPONSORING THIS HEARING, THANKS FOR EVERYBODY LISTENING TO THIS VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC. MY NAME CELIA, I AM THE PARENT OF TWO TEENAGE BOYS AT BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY. BLA AS YOU SAID GOT 7:20 START. WE LIVE LESS THAN TWO MILES AWAY AS THE CROW FLIES IN JAMAICA PLAINS YET MY SONS HAVE TO BE UP AT 6:00 TO MAKE SCHOOL ON TIME. DORCHESTER OR ALSTON, FAR EARLIER START. ALTHOUGH WEATHER TODAY STILL FEELS MORE LIKE SUMMER, IT'S ACTUALLY OCTOBER THE 17th WE'RE COUPLE WEEKS AWAY FROM THE CLOCK CHANGE GOING TO MAKE THOSE EARLY MORNINGS EVEN DARKER. 5:25 I'D LIKE TO YOU BRIEFLY SHUT YOUR EYES BUT PLEASE DON'T FALL ASLEEP. TAKE A COUPLE OF DEEP BREATHES, QUIET YOUR MIND. IMAGINE WHAT A GREAT FULL DAY COULD LOOK LIKE FOR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. WHAT MIGHT THAT LOOK LIKE. HOW MIGHT THAT FEEL TO ALL OF OUR STUDENTS, OUR TEACHERS AND STAFF, OUR PARENTS AND FAMILY. HOW WOULD WE FEEL OFFERING THE BEST OF ALL POSSIBLE DAYS OUR STUDENTS. I'M SURE MAYBE SOME OF YOU HAVE JUMPED THE OPPORTUNITY OF TOTALLY REINVENTING THE SCHOOL DAY. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO DO THAT YET, BUT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER HOW THE 180 DAYS OF THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTS. FOR THE MAJORITY OF OUR MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IT'S VERY EARLY AND YOU CAN ALL INFLUENCE THAT. YOUR LEADERS, YOUR INFLUENCES AND AS I SAID MANY OF YOU ARE PARENTS, TOO. WE'RE ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER LATER SCHOOL START TIMES TO ADOPT THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRIC GUIDELINES THAT NO MIDDLE OR HIGH SCHOOL STARTED BEFORE 8:30. CHANGE IS HARD. THE STATUS QUO CAN BE A VERY COMFORTING PLACE. THE CURRENT CHANGE THAT WE'RE ASKING TO YOU CONSIDER TODAY IS THAT WHILE THE EVIDENCE, RECOMMENDING LATER SCHOOL START TIME IS COMPELLING, GIVEN DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF ADOLESCENT BIOLOGY RELATING TO SLEEP, WHILE WE ALL CLAIM TO HOLD IN OUR HEARTS THAT WE WANT TO DO THE BEST FOR OUR STUDENTS, NOTHING IS MOVING IN THIS AREA. BOSTON SEES ITSELF AS A LEADER FOR THIS NATION IN MANY AREAS. IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT DREW ME HERE AS GRAD STUDENT. BUT ARE WE LEADING IN THIS AREA? OVER 50% OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS START BEFORE 7:30. THIS QUESTION RELATED TO LATER SCHOOL START TIME IS NOT A NEW ISSUE. A DECADE AGO BPS SPONSORED A STUDY ENTITLED "BOSTON PLANS FOR EXCELLENCE" WHICH RECOMMENDED A LATER SCHOOL START TIME TON PILOTED TO MEASURE IMPACT AND COST. IT WAS NEVER DONE. IN THE PAST TEN YEARS AS YOU'VE HEARD TODAY MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE MADE THE MOVE. YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE EXPERIENCES OF OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND RESULTS THAT THEY HAVE ACHIEVED. SO, ARE WE IN BOSTON LEADING IN THIS IMPORTANT AREA. I'D LIKE TO YOU HOLD UP A MIRROR TO YOUR OWN HALT AND HEAD AND ASK WHETHER YOU AS A LEADER AND INFLUENCER IN THIS CITY ARE EXERCISING YOUR LEADERSHIP RESPONSIBILITY WITH RESPECT TO LATER SCHOOL START. WHAT DO YOU SEE IN YOUR MIRROR? WHAT OBSTACLES, REAL OR IMAGINED ARE WE PUTTING IN THE PATH OF THIS POTENTIAL CHANGE. I WOULD ATTEST IF WE'RE HONEST WITH OURSELVES, WHEN WE LOOK INTO OUR MIRRORS BEYOND SEEING OURSELVES, MANY OF THE THINGS WE SEE REFLECTING BACK AT US, TAIL WAGGING THE DOG ISSUES, SUCH AS TRANSPORTATION, ATHLETICS, AFTER SCHOOL JOBS. AT BLA WHEN WE STARTED INVESTIGATING BARRIERS RAISED BY PARENTS AND FAMILY DURING OUR DISCOVERY PROCESS, WE LEARNED THAT TRANSPORTATION IS INCREASINGLY BECOMING A MOOT POINT. THERE AREN'T AS MANY BUSES FOR 7th AND 8th GRADERS BEYOND THE SHUTTLES THEY ARE REPLACES WITH T PASSES. ATHLETIC SCHEDULES WHEN WE SPOKE WITH THE BPS ATHLETIC DIRECTOR WE LEARNED SITTING ON THE BUS WAITING FOR OTHER SCHOOLS TO FINISH. AFTER SCHOOL JOBS, SURVEY OF BLA STUDENTS SHOWS MAJORITY OF THESE JOBS THAT YOU HEARD FROM DEB STARTED ABOUT 4:00. THAT IS NOT TO DISMISS THAT THERE ARE SOME TOUGHER CHALLENGES SUCH AS STUDENTS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUNGER SIBLINGS, OFTEN AFFORDABLE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS ARE LACKING. WE NEED TO HAVE OPEN MINDS, READINESS AND WILLINGNESS TO LOOK AT THE OBSTACLES AND TEST WHETHER OUR BELIEF THAT THESE ARE REAL OR IMAGINED. WITH OUR OPEN HEARTS IN MIND, READINESS AND WILLINGNESS IT'S ALL TOO EASY TO PUT THE ISSUE OF LATER SCHOOL START TIME IN THE TOO DIFFICULT BOX. BUT IT'S BEEN THERE FOR TOO LONG. SCHOOL BUDGETS ARE ALWAYS TIGHT, AS LEADERS WE WILL DEMONSTRATE THAT JUSTIFIABLE VALUE OF BUDGETS SPEND, FROM AN OUTCOME PERSPECTIVE IF YOU ARE A LEADER AND YOU KNEW THAT YOUR BUDGET WAS FUNDING -- WHAT WOULD YOU DO. I'M SURE YOU'D MAKE THE CHANGE. NOBODY WANTS TO THROW POTENTIAL OR MONEY AWAY. WHEN WE POLLED STUDENTS AT BLA ASKED THEM AT WHAT POINT IN THE SCHOOL DAY DO YOU FEEL AWAKE AND READY TO LEARN? 60% OF THE 10th GRADERS SAID 9:00 OR LATER. THE BLA THIS MEANS THAT THE FIRST TWO STEVEING PERIODS OF THE DAY AND RELATED BUDGET WAS NOT ACHIEVING THE DESIRED RESULTS. WE'RE WASTING BOTH POTENTIAL AND DOLLARS. WE CAN DO BETTER, MUCH BETTER. MUCH BETTER IS NOT MORE STUDIES. MUCH BETTER IS ACTION AND ACTION NEEDS TO BE NOW. PLEASE CONSIDER TO ENACT THE RESOLUTION REQUIRING THE THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO ADOPT THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS LATER SCHOOL START TIME OF 8:30 OR LATER. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. AND YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CITY OF BOSTON AND TO THE ACADEMICS SUCCESS OF ALL OUR STUDENTS. >> THANK YOU. KIM. >> HI, MY NAME IS EQUIPMENT. I LIVE IN EAST BOSTON, I AM THE PARENT OFth GRADER WHO JUST STARTED BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY. WE FEEL INCREDIBLY BLESSED TO HAVE THIS INCREDIBLE PUBLIC SCHOOL AVAILABLE TO OUR SON BUT AT THE SAME TIME I FEEL A LITTLE BIT CURSED. WE'RE LOOKING AT SIX YEARS OF THESE PREDAWN WAKE UPS, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A FEW YEARS FROM NOW. ALSO FEW YEARS FROM NOW WHEN BLA IS NOT NEW AND EXCITING AND DIFFERENT AND IT'S JUST ROUTINE, IT'S GOING TO GET HARDER. TO GET TO BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY FROM EAST BOSTON, HE'S GETTING UP AT ABOUT 5:HO IN THE MORNING THAT'S TO GET HIM OUT THE DOOR BY 6:00 A.M. WE'RE LUCKY IF HE EATS BREAKFAST, FIRST TIME THAT I TRIED TO GIVE HIM BREAKFAST BEFORE HE GOT OUT THE DOOR HE LITERALLY WAS -- HIS BODY IS NOT USED TO BEING AWAKE LET ALONE HE GOT SICK ON THE WAY TO SCHOOL. IS HE GETS THERE, TOO LATE TO BE ABLE TO EAT BREAKFAST AT SCHOOL THAT MEANS LOT OF TIMES HE'S GOING UNTIL 11:00, 11:30 BEFORE HE'S EATING ANYTHING. IT'S SO COUNT TORE HIS PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT WHERE HE'S AT TO HAVE HIM PUSHED OUT THE DOOR AT THAT HOUR. HE'S ALREADY MISSED A DAY OF SCHOOL THIS YEAR BECAUSE HE WAS JUST SO TIRED. IT WAS A THURSDAY, JUST ACCUMULATED, HAVING TO TRY TO GET TO BED EARLY AND NOT QUITE MAKING IT THEN GETTING UP EARLY HE JUST COULDN'T TAKE IT. THERE WAS ANOTHER DAY WHEN HE ARRIVED AT MAVERICK SQUARE, DISCOVERED HE HAD JUST MISSED THE BLUE LININGS NEXT TRAIN WAS COMING IN TEN MINUTES. HE'S A TEENAGER, HIS POWERS OF DECISION MAKING ARE NOT QUITE -- MAYBE YOURS AND MINE ARE, BUT TO THEN HAVE HIM FACED WITH -- A LITTLE SLEEP DRIED, HE'S PLANNING HIS OWN INTERNAL CLOCK TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT SITUATION, WHAT DO I DO. IT OVERWHELMED HIM, HE TURNED AROUND RAN HOME, CAME IN THE DOOR CRYING. LUCKILY I WAS THERE TO BAIL HIM OUT GIVE HIM A RIDE TO SCHOOL, BUT I CAN'T DO THAT EVERY DAY. IT FEELS LIKE JUST A WHEN WE'RE ASKING OUR KID TO TAKE UP MORE RESPONSIBILITY, SAYING YOU NEED TO SELF TRANSPORT, GIVEN A T PASS WHEN THEY'RE ON TRANSIT THEY ARE FACED WITH A MILLION DECISIONS EVERY DAY ABOUT, WHAT DO I DO, DO I HOP OFF THE TRAIN HERE GET THE SILVER LINE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE FASTER. VERY DYNAMIC CHANGING CHAIRABLE SITUATION, JUST ASKING THEM TO FACE THAT SITUATION, WE'RE PUSHING THEM OUT THE DOOR WHEN THEY ARE HALF ASLEEP. WE HEARD FROM THE EXPERTS THAT, HAVING TO MAKE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT DECISIONS THAN EVER HAD TO FACE BEFORE WHEN -- MAKES IT THAT MUCH HARDER FOR THEM. IT'S ALSO, MY SON PLAYS SPORTS. HE'S A SOCCER PLAYER. BUT HE DOESN'T PLAY SPORTS AT SCHOOL HE PLAYS SPORTS WITH TRAVEL TEAM. THERE'S OMAN EERIE SOURCES AVAILABLE TO OUR KIDS WHETHER IT'S SPORTS OR MUSIC OR ART, THAT ARE NOT SCHOOL BASED. FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITIES AT SCHOOL BUT THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE NOT AT SCHOOL AND HIS PRACTICES START AT 6:00 P.M. HE'S DONE AT 8:00. HE'S PLAY IN ROXBURY BY THE TIME WE GET HOME IT'S 9:00. ACTUALLY PUSHING THE SCHOOL START TIME LATER WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR HIM TO PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS OR OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND AVAILABLE. THE LAST THING TO TOUCH ON IS ISSUE OF EQUITY. I LIVE IN EAST BOSTON I'VE LIVED THERE MORE THAN 13 YEARS, I'M SORRY SAY THIS IN FRONT OF COUNCILOR LaMATTINA, I HAVE TO THINK, SHOULD I MOVE OUT OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR MY SON TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE THE INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY OF BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY. BUT THAT IS A CHOICE THAT I HAVE, I KNOW THAT NOT EVERYBODY HAS THAT CHOICE. IF I WERE LIVING IN PUBLIC HOUSING, IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE EAST BOSTON WHERE MAJORITY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE LATINO OR LOWER INCOME RESIDENTS, YOU DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THOSE CHOICES AVAILABLE, THERE'S TREMENDOUS ISSUES OF EQUITY HERE THAT I THINK THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING THIS ISSUE VERY SERIOUSLY AND URGE YOU TO PASS THE RESOLUTION TO MAKE THE SCHOOL START TIME LATER. >> THANK YOU, KIM. JEFFREY. I DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY. YOU CAN COME DOWN AFTER JEFFREY. WE'RE JUST PAST THE 5:30 MARK. I'D LOVE TO NOT PUSH YOU ALONG, ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE QUICK. >> MY NAME IS JEFF. I LIVE IN BOSTON OBVIOUSLY I HAVE TWO CHILDREN IN THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. ONE CHILD AT BOSTON ARTS ACADEMY THAT STARTS AT 8:00 GOES TO 4:00. ANOTHER CHILD, THERE SEEMS TO BE NUMBER OF US HERE BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY, STARTS AT 7:20 IN FACT IT DOES. THE GOAL TO GET THERE BY 7:10 SO YOU'RE IN HOME ROOM AND ROLL TAKEN. I WAS CERTAINLY ON THE FENCE, MAYBE EVEN TENDING TOWARD IT'S A BAD IDEA TO START SCHOOL LATER. I WENT THROUGH GRADUATE SCHOOL GETTING FIVE HOURS OF SLEEP A NIGHT I WAS QUITE RIGOROUS WITH MYSELF. MAYBE NOT SO HEALTHY. MAYBE NOT SO WISE. ALL THOSE THINGS I BELIEVE AND I BELIEVE HELPED GET ME TO SCHOOL, GET ME WHERE I AM. AS I JOINED THE COMMITTEE TO THE LATER SCHOOL, I WAS EXPOSED TO THE DOCTORS, I WISH THEY WERE STILL HERE. THERE ARE COUPLE OF REALLY SALIENT THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THEIR PRESENTATION, I WISH YOU COULD SEE HIS IMAGES AS WELL AS HIS WORDS BECAUSE THE IMAGE, C.A.T. SCAN OF THE BRAIN, FROM METABOLISM, ALL THE CAPILLARIES AND ARTERIES AND WATCH IT CHANGE IN THE LAST TWO HOURS OF SLEEP CLEAN ITSELF OUT, TELL YOU THAT IT CONTAINS A PROTEIN THAT NOT ONLY INHIBITS BRAIN DEVELOPMENT BUT ALSO LINKS TO ALZHEIMER'S PRETTY DAMN COMPELLING TO SEE. AS A PERSON WHO WAS ON THE FENCE AND HAVING TO WRESTLE BETWEEN THE SCIENCE AND MY OWN PERSONAL VALUES, IT TOOK ME AWHILE TO EVOLVE. I THINK THAT THAT PERSONAL JOURNEY IS ALSO A JOURNEY THAT WILL HAPPEN WITH MANY PARENTS AND SCHOOL IN GENERAL, ONE THAT I HOPE BEGINS SOON. I THANK YOU BOTH FOR HAVING THIS HEARING TO FURTHER THAT DISCUSSION. HAVING RECONCILED THOSE THINGS, A BIT LIKE WHEN YOU BECOME EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE PERSON YOU STARTED OUT AS, I WALK INTO MY DAUGHTER'S BEDROOM AT 6:00 IN THE MORNING SAY, DEAR, AFTER SEVEN HOURS OF SLEEP I WANT TO YOU STOP CONSOLIDATING KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAD YESTERDAY AND GO TO SCHOOL. I WANT ALL THAT HAVE TO STILL EXIST IN YOUR BRAIN TO STAY THERE BECAUSE SOME DAY I WANT YOU TO BE GO TO DOCTOR EXPLAIN WHY YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH YOUR MEMORY. YOU FEEL PRETTY FOOLISH DRAGGING YOUR KID OUT OF BED WHEN YOU USED TO THINK EARLY BIRD CATCHES THE WORM AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE WISE AND HEALTHY AND WEALTHY, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE. LAST TWO HOURS OF SLEEP NOW WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, I EMBRACE THAT SCIENCE WHICH I HAD A HARD TIME ACCEPTING AND I'M GOING TO REITERATE ONE THING THAT WAS POINTED TO EARLIER, THE 10th GRADER AT BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY I'M GOING TO ADD THEM, LESS THAN SIX OR SEVEN HOURS. 80% OF THE 10th GRADERS AT BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY GET LESS THAN SEVEN HOURS OF SLEEP A NIGHT. ONCE YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS AFTER SEVEN HOURS, BIG UNCONSCIONABLE THAT WE DO THIS. ABSOLUTELY. I APPLAUD BOTH OF YOU FOR BEING INSIGHTFUL ENOUGH TO BRING THIS IN TO A PUBLIC DISCUSSION AND LOOK FORWARD TO A ROBUST AND EVOLVING DISCUSSION AND I PRAY THAT NEXT YEAR WE START AT 8:30. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. >> SURE, COUNCILOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS MARK. I RESIDE AT 95ARDALE STREET IN THE ROSLINDALE AREA OF BOSTON FOR PURPOSES OF IDENTIFICATION, I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF METRO 308 L TAN AREA PLANNING COUNCIL. THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL AND SERVED AS MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. AT THE MOMENT I'M HERE AS THE PARENT OF SAM WHO IS AN 8th GRADER AT BOSTON LATIN ACADEMY. WE SEEM TO HAVE NUMBERS FROM BLA TODAY. I WANT TO ADD MY VOICE TO THOSE SUPPORTING A LATER START TIME. MY SON IS OUT AT 6:15. I AM UP AT 5:15 EVERY MORNING. WE WORK THROUGH THE DAY, WE'VE HAD MANY OF THE DIFFICULTIES THAT OTHER PARENTS HAVE MENTIONED, DIFFICULTY GETTING HIM OUT OF BED THAT EARLY. ACCOMPLISHING THE THINGS HE NEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE MORNING, MAKING SURE THAT LUNCH IS MADE, MAKING SURE THAT HE HAS SOME BREAKFAST AND THEN GETTING HIM TO BED AT A VERY EARLY HOUR IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE EARLY RISE. IT IS DIFFICULT, BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE INCLINATION THAT TEENAGERS HAVE. WE CAN ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THAT BY DEALING WITH THE FACT THAT HE'S TIRED OR BY DEALING WITH THE TREMENDOUS AUTHORITY THAT PARENTS OF TEENAGERS USUALLY HAVE TO EXERCISE, BUILT WE CAN ONLY ACCOMPLISH SO MUCH. I KNOW THAT MY SON IS GENERALLY DEALING WITH ABOUT SEVEN HOURS OF SLEEP, MAYBE EIGHT HOURS A SLEEP ON A GOOD NIGHT. IT'S SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH. I TEND TO LOOK AT THIS NOT ONLY -- I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT THE SCIENCE, I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT THE SURVEY DATA THAT DEB AND OTHER PARENTS ALREADY HAVE EXPLAINED WHICH I THINK VERY NICELY ADDRESSES SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED. BUT I'D LIKE TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE POLITICAL ISSUES THAT I FEEL WE'RE FACING. ONE OF THOSE IS THIS NOTION THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY INFORMED AND EDUCATED BEFORE WE CAN MAKE A CHANGE. WE SHOULD HAVE OUTREACH. WE SHOULD HAVE EDUCATION. WE SHOULD HAVE DISCUSSIONS. BUT FOR HEAVEN'S SAKES SHOULDN'T HAVE FOUR OR FIVE OR SIX YEARS OF IT. RIGHT NOW, WE'VE BEEN PARENTS OF TWO PUBLIC SCHOOL CHILDREN, OUR KIDS HAVE GONE DIFFERENT START TIMES ALL THE TIME. I DEALT WITH THE 7:20, THE 8:30, THE 89:30, ALL HAVE THEIR PLUSES AND MINUSES. NEVER DID ANYONE COME TO US SAY, WE NEED TO EDUCATE YOU AND DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU AND SEE IF YOU CAN POSSIBLY HANDLE THE ISSUE OF TWO DIFFERENT CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL AT 7:20 AND 9:30. IT JUST HAPPENS. THERE WAS NO DEEP CONCERN EXPRESSED ABOUT THAT. SO, I FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME ANALYSIS, SHOULD BE THIS EDUCATION OF COURSE FOR THE MOST PART WE ALREADY KNOW THE MOST IMPORTANT INFORMATION WHICH IS THAT OUR KIDS ON THE WHOLE, BY AND LARGE, WILL DO BETTER IF WE START SCHOOL LATER. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE SOME BENEFITS AND SOME DIFFICULTY AT THE END OF THE DATE WHEN YOU CHANGE THE TIME. BUT FOR THE MOST PART OVER TIME THOSE EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES AND JOBS AND VARIOUS OTHER THINGS WILL LEARN TO ACCOMMODATE THEMSELVES TO THE CHANGE IN TIME. MAY TAKE A LITTLE WHILE M. PEOPLE MAY BE INCONVENIENCED. AGAIN, PUBLIC POLICY IS ADOPTED NOT BECAUSE OF THE OCCASIONAL DIFFICULTY BUT RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION, WHAT WILL THE OVERALL BENEFITS BE. HERE IT SEEMS TO ME QUITE IN DISTINCTION TO MANY OTHER PUBLIC POLICIES THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE TO CONSIDER, THERE IS ALREADY OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE OF THE BENEFITS. I AM PLEASED ALSO TODAY TO HEAR FROM THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENT FOLKS, ONE OF WHOM I THINK IS STILL HERE WITH US TODAY. BUT I WAS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT THERE WAS NO PRESENTATION ALREADY INDICATING WITH SOME SPECIFICITY HOW THIS MIGHT BE PURSUED. HOW THE DIFFICULTIES WOULD BE OVERCOME, WHAT THE COSTS WOULD BE, THERE WAS NO INDICATION THAT THERE'S A SERIOUS REVIEW GOING ON THAT ACTUALLY HAS A CLOCK ASSOCIATED WITH IT, NEVER MIND OUR KIDS' START TIME. I'M HOPEFUL THAT WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE SCHOOL COMMITTEE, MAYBE THE MAYOR, PERHAPS THESE ISSUES COULD BE ATTACHED TO A TIMELINE SO THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY START PILOTING CHANGE REALLY SOON. IF THAT WORKS OUT HELPS US FIGURE OUT WHAT THE KINKS ARE MAYBE MOVE TO SYSTEM-WIDE 8:30 OR LATER START. I THINK THAT WOULD BE FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR KIDS. THAT AFTER ALL IS I THINK WHAT WE'RE ALL WORKING ON AND ALL DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. LAST BUT NOT LEAST. INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. >> MY NAME IS DAVE, I HAVE A SON IN SCHOOL. A NUMBER OF US -- INITIALLY SPOKE TO BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS. [ INAUDIBLE ] TALK ABOUT THE LOGISTICS INVOLVED. I CAME AWAY DISMAYED AND I THOUGHT THAT THE CITY COULD NOT SURVIVE A CHANGE. I UNDERSTAND -- [ INAUDIBLE ] I CAME AWAY ON A PRACTICAL BASIS, I TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE AND I COULD SEE ALL OF THE REASONS THAT WHY -- BECAUSE OF CONVENIENCE. IN MY BACKGROUND OF SCIENCE, I GOT AHOLD OF THE SUMMARIES THAT BEING CIRCULATED I SAT DOWN AND READ THE RESEARCH. THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING BECAUSE THIS IS NOT SOME -- THESE ARE THE CDC, THESE ARE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATIONS THIS IS VERY SERIOUS AND PROFESSIONAL RESEARCH AND I REALIZE THAT THE WAY TO REFUTE MEDICAL RESEARCH IS PART OF OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM REFUTE IT WITH OTHER MEDICAL RESEARCH. I SEARCHED ON THAT. COULD NOT FIND ANYTHING. FIND ANY OPPOSING RESEARCH THAT DENIED. I REALIZED THAT REGARDLESS OF THE CONVENIENCE, REGARDLESS OF SPORTS AND WORK, WE NEED FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE FOR SOCIETY THAT IT BEGINS WITH THE CHILDREN. IT BEGINS WITH THE HEALTHY ATTITUDE, BUT THE BEST THAT WE KNOW HIGHWAY TO DO AND WE STRUCTURE OUR SOCIETY BACKWARDS PERHAPS TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE KNOW IS BEST FOR THE CHILDREN. THAT'S A LOT OF WORK TO DO. THAT'S EASY TO SAY. I KNOW IT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK FOR EVERYONE. HOWEVER, THAT'S THE RIGHT DIRECTION. LASTLY JUST WANT TO SAY WHEN MY SON WAS IN 6th GRADE, GOT TO SCHOOL ONE DAY, WITHOUT SAYING A WORD THE TEACHER WHO IS NOW RETIRED, WAS QUITE EXPERIENCED LOOKED DOWN AT MY SON, HE GOT LOTS OF SLEEP LAST NIGHT. TO RECOGNIZE THE LOOK ON A STUDENT'S FACE WITHOUT ANY WORD SAID IS PHENOMENAL. TOOK AN EXPERIENCED TEACH TORE JUST RECOGNIZE, LOOK, I CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE WITHOUT EVEN TALKING TO THE CHILD, I CAN SEE THAT HE GOT -- SHE WAS RIGHT. ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT WE NEED TO REFINE OUR WHOLE ATTITUDE LOOK FORWARD TO THE WORK INVOLVED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. CLOSING REMARKS? >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AGAIN IT WAS A PLEASURE TO PARTNER WITH YOU ON THIS, I ECHO EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID FROM THE PARENTS. RAISE MY HOPE THAT WE CAN TURN THIS INTO A WORKING SESSION REALLY ADDRESS THE ANTICIPATED CHALLENGES BUT COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT CAN TAKE THOSE INTO ACCOUNT TO MAKE AN 8:-START TIME. >> THANK YOU. COUNCILOR LaMATTINA? >> TO BOTH OF YOU, I THINK AFTER HEARING THE PARENTS AND PROFESSIONALS THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. I THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CHANGE THE START TIME, MAYBE ALL THE SCHOOLS. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DO IT. BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT. I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVE WORKING SESSION OR RESOLUTION AND WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT PRESENTED HERE TODAY THEN OF COURSE THAT TESTIFIED IN THE END. REALIZE THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR OUTCOMES THAT ARE BEST FOR THE CHILD AND THE CHILD'S ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP OUR FOCUS ON THAT NEED AND ON THAT GOAL. I DO LOOK FORWARD TO ROLLING UP MY SLEEVES WITH MY COLLEAGUES, AS COSPONSOR OF THIS AND WITH OTHERS INCLUDENESS COUNCILOR JACKSON AND COUNCILOR LaMATTINA TO WORK WITH BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO REALLY FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN COME TO SOME ANSWERS, COME TO SOME SOLUTIONS AND CHANGES TO THE WAY THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS. I KNOW FOR MYSELF AS WE'VE EMBARKED UPON THIS, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES, I THINK I MENTIONED THIS AT THE BEGINNING IS THAT WE DON'T DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EVER DONE IT. HAVEN'T MADE THAT CHANGE. THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH REASON TO NOT MAKE CHANGES. MY OWN EXPERIENCE AT EAST BOSTON HIGH, WHEN WE STARTED TO LOOK AT CHANGING WHAT WE WERE DOING IN OUR FIRST PERIOD CLASSROOMS AS A SCHOOL, REALLY SENT THE WRONG MESSAGE TO KIDS. IT DID TELL OUR CHILDREN THAT WE WILL WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT WHAT WE TOLD THEM IS, ONLY REALLY CARED ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN MATH AND ENGLISH WHEN WE WERE PUTTING OTHER PUBLIC MATTERS INTO THE FIRST PERIOD CLASS CALLING THEM LESS IMPORTANT. IT WAS OUR WAY OF ADJUSTING WHAT WE WERE DOING TO SUIT THE CHILD. BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING SESSION WITH THE SCHOOL DEPARTMENT, ONSLY THEY ARE CRITICAL PLAYER IN ALL OF THIS. WILL GIVE US VALUABLE INFORMATION, THAT VALUABLE LEADERSHIP AS WE MOVE TO WORKING SESSION. I THANK YOU, MORE TO COME. I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION THIS EVENING.